Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Goat we lack talent in several areas...RT, WR, D-line, LB, and the entire secondary...oh yeah, the coaching sucks. This is 4-6 win talent. Name any of our players that are top 5 at their position? Maybe Trent Williams and that's probably it.

Top 5 at their position:

Offense
- RG3
- Morris
- Trent Williams
- Montgomery and or Chester, who's been almost totally solid this season
- Moss as a slot WR

Defense (current scheme)
- London (he needs some scheme help in that he shouldn't ever be covering 1 on 1 on the edges, but London is still a monster in middle run stopper and actually has great ball skills as a zone cover guy in the middle)
- Kerrigan
- Bowen

Defense as it should be, in a 4-3 scheme, would add another top 5 in that Cofield will make an excellent d tackle.

Payton is going to Dallas, he lives there and he wants to coach there

I've seen/heard this several places now! Dallas will be soooooo good under Sean Peyton.

I've seen/heard this several places now! Dallas will be soooooo good under Sean Peyton.

People thought that with Parcells too.

People thought that with Parcells too.

Dallas will have to find a replacement for romo soon and people that think Tony isn't any good, he's better than anyone they've had since aikman

Honestly I felt strongly in 2008 that Jim Fassel was exactly what this team needed. Or Mike Sherman. I think someone who's already been a coach but is looking for a second chance to get his first ring would be ideal.

Oh well, we all know who our next coach is anyway



So is it true that Gruden was asked prior to Shanny to come aboard and he turned us down (due to no QB, Snyder's rep and mostly loving his ESPN gig)?

I'd love gruden but he ain't leaving ESPN

This is why I say Shanahan should not have been hired in the first place. He's not the right coach for this organization/fan base.

That is fantastic!! Now the fans are the problem!!

What gets me is Mike is so ready to put it on the players. I listened to him last week and he said several times this is where vets step up and rally the team. What...the...hell...does he think his job is?

Given the last three games it's painfully obvious Mike has lost this team, and deservedly so.

For those that say a coaching change would hurt us..

Look at TB, Indianapolis, Miami

For those that say a coaching change would hurt us..

Look at TB, Indianapolis, Miami

Woot.. I wanna play, but I'll go the other direction..

Cleveland, Dallas, Carolina!

This is fun.

If you truly do not think the team in place today is not superior to the team MS inherited, you certainly are not up for....any realistic discussion.

You miss the point entirely. It's debatable whether Mike has built a more talented roster than the one he inherited, but the debate is irrelevant. He doesn't win regardless.