Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

This should happen immediately (pasted and modified from another board usually inferior to this one):

1. Fire Haslett.

2. Fire Smith.

3. Get the WRs on the jugs machines.

4. Get the WRs on the jugs machines.

5. Watch tape and figure out who in our secondary doesn't start next week.

6. Bench Riley.

7. Royster, don't count on playing much if Helu's healthy, unless you get your act together.

8. Kyle, I know the drops hurt, but the past two games have still been pretty bad.

9. DL and OL, watch tape and see if anyone needs to sit next to Polumbus on the bench for awhile. Otherwise you guys and Rg3, sorry the rest of the team let you down.

10. Danny Snyder, you know what would make this season the perfect clusterflop? Firing Shanahan even if this season doesn't turn around. Nobody will want to coach here except a Jim Zorn type, and we don't have a team that made the playoffs last season like Zorn did.

Are you watching the same team I am? What talent?

If you truly believe this team to have no talent, it's a bigger indictment of the regime than I make. Do you realize this?

Where we lack talent offensively is at RT. The sputtering offense is a direct result of really, really poor coaching. We are totally predictable at this point. The other big issue is whether our pass catchers continue to trust the Shanahans. Mike/Kyle's inability or refusal to spread the field and create space for our pass-catchers, thereby constantly putting them in the position to get destroyed at the point of the catch, is the most bizarre thing I've seen for a long time in pro football. It's weirder than the Tebow nonsense, but because it only involves a couple coaches nobody takes serious there just isn't a lot of attention given.

Defensively, this group as it stands today could be middle of the pack. Not great, certainly not elite. But middle of the pack. Poor scheme (the 3-4), poor play-calling and really poor adjustments are the difference.

Zorn never had 6 quality starters out due to injury either. That's a lot of production gone.

You never use injuries as an excuse. Shanahi regime is under .350 winning percentage. Sounds like hall of fame numbers. I had a .375!

I am not sold on baby boy Kyle. He should be seriously evaluated at the end of the season.
Agree with your observation, but let's be realistic Shannahan is not going to fire his son, period.

If you truly believe this team to have no talent, it's a bigger indictment of the regime than I make. Do you realize this?

Where we lack talent offensively is at RT. The sputtering offense is a direct result of really, really poor coaching. We are totally predictable at this point. The other big issue is whether our pass catchers continue to trust the Shanahans. Mike/Kyle's inability or refusal to spread the field and create space for our pass-catchers, thereby constantly putting them in the position to get destroyed at the point of the catch, is the most bizarre thing I've seen for a long time in pro football. It's weirder than the Tebow nonsense, but because it only involves a couple coaches nobody takes serious there just isn't a lot of attention given.

Defensively, this group as it stands today could be middle of the pack. Not great, certainly not elite. But middle of the pack. Poor scheme (the 3-4), poor play-calling and really poor adjustments are the difference.

Goat we lack talent in several areas...RT, WR, D-line, LB, and the entire secondary...oh yeah, the coaching sucks. This is 4-6 win talent. Name any of our players that are top 5 at their position? Maybe Trent Williams and that's probably it.

You know, this subject may want to be revisited at the end of the season. This team still has the look of an under coached team. The penalties are simply discipline. As much as I want this crew to work out. There are problems with this team and they are not solely because of talent.

Also the whole this play worked once so let's run it again, isn't so great when the defense knows it and stuffs the second play. The offense is regressing.

I voted to fire Shanny now, granted I am extremely ticked off after going through this gut wrenching 3 game losing streak. Thankful for the bye week so that I won't have to suffer through another loss. If this team losses another 10+ games this year I don't see how Shannahan can survive, this is the NFL after all, as Glanville once said (Not For Long).

Payton is going to Dallas, he lives there and he wants to coach there

Agree with your observation, but let's be realistic Shannahan is not going to fire his son, period.

Provided that is true its another reason he never should have been hired.
This blows.....

Payton is going to Dallas, he lives there and he wants to coach there

Makes sense.