Should Mike Shanahan be fired?


punch it in
11-04-2012, 01:21 PM
Skinzman if you look again at my post I said,
Alot of people just read it(the question) and go "fire him now, are you crazy? You are stupid!"
Notice the quotes. I was actually pointing out that kind of black and white - dont want to hear your reasons or opinions - calling someones opinion stupid - response is not what i personally want to hear. I want to hear why and or when you will want to see MS go. Or if u love the guy and never want to see him go is fine too.



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The Goat
11-04-2012, 05:18 PM
Being realistic, this franchise is at least two full offseasons away from building a winner. The trade for RG3 was absolutely the key move to give fans a foundation of hope, but there are still a ton of other holes to fill. IMO, the last thing this franchise needs is another head coaching change. I would prefer to limit Shanny's power on the personnel side, and bring in a GM that has a real say during the offseason.

With Mike coaching or in the FO this franchise will never produce a competitive team. In fact, I don't think Mike will ever have a winning season as HC again.

We are arguably the worst coached team in pro football. It's so sad and disappointing to see the talent we have go to waste week in week out.

skinsfan69
11-04-2012, 05:20 PM
With Mike coaching or in the FO this franchise will never produce a competitive team. In fact, I don't think Mike will ever have a winning season as HC again.

We are arguably the worst coached team in pro football. It's so sad and disappointing to see the talent we have go to waste week in week out.

Are you watching the same team I am? What talent?

skinsfaninok
11-04-2012, 05:22 PM
This question won't be such a laugh after we drop another 5-11 season. How many coaches last in the NFL with a record like that every year?

The Goat
11-04-2012, 05:24 PM
It's really just six guys as I voted yes for a good laugh

The funny thing is I don't feel like those of us who see the Shanahan era for what it really is are ahead of the curve so to speak. The results are so obvious, the poor coaching so flagrant, I think this is a rare phenomenon where you have people becoming fans of a person over a team. Sort of like a cult of personality in political/historical terms.

But there's plenty of mystery to go around. Mike shows nothing on or off the field to engender, let alone deserve, a cult of personality. What I'm really starting to wonder is if the cult mentality exists outside TWP, or if most fans elsewhere are seeing things clearly already?

It's tough for me to gauge cuz there just aren't a lot of Skins fans out west.

skinsfaninok
11-04-2012, 05:25 PM
The funny thing is I don't feel like those of us who see the Shanahan era for what it really is are ahead of the curve so to speak. The results are so obvious, the poor coaching so flagrant, I think this is a rare phenomenon where you have people becoming fans of a person over a team. Sort of like a cult of personality in political/historical terms.

But there's plenty of mystery to go around. Mike shows nothing on or off the field to engender, let alone deserve, a cult of personality. What I'm really starting to wonder is if the cult mentality exists outside TWP, or if most fans elsewhere are seeing things clearly already?

It's tough for me to gauge cuz there just aren't a lot of Skins fans out west.

I am a fan of MS always have been and I loved the hire but this team isn't getting any better year by year. Jim Zorn even won 8 games one year

CrustyRedskin
11-04-2012, 05:27 PM
Do the Shanahan's coaching or his staff for that matter strike fear or even worry the opponent?

skinsfaninok
11-04-2012, 05:29 PM
This team doesn't even look interested in games, also we r leading the league in penalties?

NC_Skins
11-04-2012, 05:30 PM
I am a fan of MS always have been and I loved the hire but this team isn't getting any better year by year. Jim Zorn even won 8 games one year

Zorn never had 6 quality starters out due to injury either. That's a lot of production gone.

The Goat
11-04-2012, 05:30 PM
I've said it before but i really strongly feel that Shanahan could get fired if the skins lose out. 3-13 even with a franchise QB won't save him.

Every game cannot come down to being a shootout. Our defense just can't stop anybody. Opponents can run, pass, it doesn't matter. Our offense is finally respectable but I don't think anyone can respect the skins as long as ou defense is this bad.

Unless somehow the defense is changed and starts playing well, I don't see us winning very many games, and I still believe we finish between 3 and 6 wins solely because of the horrible defense.

The defense is consistently bad, but the change to watch for is in the offense. I suspected RG3 would buy Mike and Kyle a little extra time this season before every opposing defense knew what we would do before we did. Looks like I was mistaken and the Shanahans are cooked at about the half-way point, not significantly different than the previous two years.

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