SmootSmack
10-30-2012, 06:56 PM
Anyhow, I will say this while I don't think it'd be a good idea to fire Mike Shanahan (though like I've said before he's not necessarily the guy I would have hired). I think it'd be an even bigger mistake to get rid of Bruce Allen. So if they insist (though I know they don't) on making some huge move, I sure hope they hold on to Bruce Allen
SmootSmack
10-30-2012, 06:57 PM
Nobody cares if we lose know matter how good or bad the qb is? Coaches deserve credit when they win - not when they have a great qb? Shanny got roasted with Mcnabb. Got roasted for rex/beck. Now he has a stud qb and is 3-5 and what? Credit for losing with a great offense? Lol.
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Think you missed the point.
JoeRedskin
10-30-2012, 07:00 PM
Yes. I think Allen has done a great job with what he was given.
GTripp0012
10-30-2012, 07:03 PM
Nobody cares if we lose know matter how good or bad the qb is? Coaches deserve credit when they win - not when they have a great qb? Shanny got roasted with Mcnabb. Got roasted for rex/beck. Now he has a stud qb and is 3-5 and what? Credit for losing with a great offense? Lol.
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Pretty clear isn't it.
That rg3 was drafted and developed by the shanaclan should not be an excuse for a mediocre at best football team it should be an indictment.
The football team, that is. I give credit where credit is due for rg3. The first rousing success of the shanahan era.
Taking just three years.
GTripp0012
10-30-2012, 07:06 PM
Yes. I think Allen has done a great job with what he was given.
Great? I'm an Allen fan, but if he's done great, what superlatives are left for Thomas dimitroff or Martin Matthew? Stupendous?
punch it in
10-30-2012, 07:09 PM
There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.
Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:
If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.
Not if you measure success in wins and losses JR. Our offense is much better and our defense is much worse. Our record is the same. I dont want to hear about injures they are a part of the game. I dont want to hear about personell or asst coaches because that was Shannys choice. Bottom line is next year or the year after if they arent a playoff team it isnt because fans didnt have faith. Only time is going to tell but looking at the state of the current team as a whole and how it performs as a whole - not an offense- well it is no better than three years ago. It is younger but not better.
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los panda
10-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Great? I'm an Allen fan, but if he's done great, what superlatives are left for Thomas dimitroff or Martin Matthew? Stupendous?this course is pass/fail
SmootSmack
10-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Allen has completely revitalized the culture at Redskins Park. The organization from top to bottom is in a much better place than it was under Cerrato. And that's largely because of Allen.
I'm going to assume you mean Martin Mayhew. Love the guy but how great is he doing these days?
punch it in
10-30-2012, 07:12 PM
Think you missed the point.
The point was everybody wanted to bash MS for mcnabb and rex/beck. But nobody wants to give him credit for rg-3.
Well if any of those qb's won he would have gotten credit. None of them have won. Atleast not more than they have lost. So i ask again credit for what?
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natesurfn
10-30-2012, 07:18 PM
Monday morning I voted Shanahan should be fired, turns out it was all emotion. Overall I think he has brought in some good youth and turned over the roster nicely. RG3 is amazing although Shanahan can't get full credit for that, he would have taken Griff or Luck, either would have been good but it was a preety much can't miss situation.
McNabb was a mistake because, although most will disagree with me, I think JC had more to offer and was always just in a bad situation. Don't get me wrong I'm happy that we have the QB we do now, but man my life is going to be cut short 20 years just from being a Skins fan. I say next year we need to be 9-7 minimum or Shanahan is fired.