GTripp0012
10-28-2012, 10:17 PM
Anyway, time for the stats part of this post
Winning Percentage
Mike Tice .492
Norv Turner .487
Dave Wannestedt .485
Jerry Glanville .465
Jim Haslett .435
Rich Kotite .417
Butch Davis .414
Eric Mangini .413
Vince Tobin .394
Bruce Coslet .379
June Jones .379
Mike Shanahan (WAS only) .350
John McKay .333
Mike Nolan .327
Joe Bugel .300
The Goat
10-28-2012, 10:17 PM
Again, picking who would replace him is beyond the scope of the thread. I understand the practicality of the argument that you can fire him and end up hiring another bad coach. I get that. I'm not sure that's much of a defense of the current administration, but I get it.
Anyway, 40 games is not a small sample. It's the average NFL career for a player.
Well, it's pretty hard to limit the scope to ending one regime, but not think about what replaces it.
Somebody made a pretty brilliant observation that RG3 (alone) will attract coaching talent. I think Snyder should look at it this way. We have something very special to offer.
So, to hell with scope. I'd take Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher tomorrow. I'd take Parcells tomorrow too. Outside the legacy coaches you just have to look around the league at teams that are getting it right.
GTripp0012
10-28-2012, 10:18 PM
I honestly think he's more of an Aaron Rodgers and GULP Tony Romo when he is on the move he's deadly and even in the pocket he's great. Why do u say rivers?A lot of the throws he makes only Rivers would attempt.
The Goat
10-28-2012, 10:19 PM
Ok, so circular logic begs me to ask the question that if we weren't all that bad, why in the hell did it need rebuilding so horribly. Did we fall off so much from 2008 to 2009? I think the VAST majority of people on this board have been caught saying that the team Shanahan took over in 2009 was quite possibly the most atrocious squad ever to don the B&G. The year prior to Shanahan, our defense was ranked top 10, and while not good, we still churned out 22nd in the league in offense. The point is that he hasn't done much with 3 years here to instill any sort of confidence. RG3, 110 out of 100 people could hit on that pick. Shanahan is coaching here based SOLELY on previous accolades (from the 97 -98 seasons). And it shows.
I'm shocked...that kind of clear logic didn't crash the site :)
skinsfaninok
10-28-2012, 10:19 PM
A lot of the throws he makes only Rivers would attempt.
I see, but rivers really has been bad last two seasons
53Fan
10-28-2012, 10:20 PM
And for the record, I'm not sure any hot coaching candidate would turn down the ability to coach RG3. If he did, we wouldn't want him anyway.
We definitely wouldn't want him because he'd have to be an idiot.
GTripp0012
10-28-2012, 10:24 PM
So, to hell with scope. I'd take Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher tomorrow. I'd take Parcells tomorrow too. Outside the legacy coaches you just have to look around the league at teams that are getting it right.Aren't you a little nervous that big picture, we'd be making the same mistake there we did with Shanahan.
I think you have to get someone unproven. Not Zorn-level unproven, but maybe Todd Bowles unproven?
SmootSmack
10-28-2012, 10:40 PM
Well, it's pretty hard to limit the scope to ending one regime, but not think about what replaces it.
Somebody made a pretty brilliant observation that RG3 (alone) will attract coaching talent. I think Snyder should look at it this way. We have something very special to offer.
So, to hell with scope. I'd take Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher tomorrow. I'd take Parcells tomorrow too. Outside the legacy coaches you just have to look around the league at teams that are getting it right.
You have a problem with "living off his overrated past" Shanahan, yet you'd instantly go after Cowher or Gruden?
mooby
10-28-2012, 10:47 PM
You have a problem with "living off his overrated past" Shanahan, yet you'd instantly go after Cowher or Gruden?
Yes, because they aren't two bit moron knuckleheaded egotistic sacks of dog shit that the rest of the league has read the book on and knows their moves 2 moves in advance, just running their teams into the ground for no reason. That's the problem with Shanny.
ethat001
10-28-2012, 11:07 PM
Why is this such a pressing issue after having one of the best offenses in the league and almost beating the NY Giants last week? Isn't everyone allowed a bad game?
There are two threads on this, but clearly the better question is should Haslett be fired. At least that question would make sense.