Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

You know whats funny about that whole thing?

Jim Zorn (and I am in no way saying he should have ever been a HC) had, with a MUCH MUCH crappier team, a better winning percentage than Mike Shanahan did with the Redskins. AND he had Mr. Cerrato to contend with as well. Maybe its time people take a few seconds to stop and smell the Folgers, and realize maybe Allen and Shanahan just might not be the saviors all of us envisioned. I understand the longing for consistency, but if you cannot at least get close to the playoffs with an NFL caliber squad in the past 7 years of head coaching, you are just not that good of a coach. No matter if you won 2 super bowls with arguably the top quarterback of all time. You're just not.

I think Mike has improved the personell on this team and except for the secondary put it in pretty good shape for the next HC and his new assistant coaches.

That's a really, really good way to look it at. Realistic, yet optimistic at the same time. Leave it to 53 to bring in the sage wisdom :)

No need to extend him, I'd let him ride out these last 2 years.

No need to extend him, I'd let him ride out these last 2 years.2 years is a really long time to ride out, no? 8 games seems far more reasonable.

If these next eight games are the best eight games of the Shanahan era, I see no reason why he shouldn't remain the coach. But the Redskins have already erred on the side of patience here. There's no reason to act irrationally.

Some of you farm animals apparently didn't watch the games against Atlanta, Minnesota, and the Giants. Acting like the whole team has been flat for a month.

Indeed, the whole team was flat only today. The coaching, however, has been flat (if flat means woefully outmatched) in all but two games this season. One game was against a guy who's never really coached before (New Orleans) and the other against a pretty bad team (Bucs).

We were out coached against the Vikings?

You know whats funny about that whole thing?

Jim Zorn (and I am in no way saying he should have ever been a HC) had, with a MUCH MUCH crappier team, a better winning percentage than Mike Shanahan did with the Redskins. AND he had Mr. Cerrato to contend with as well. Maybe its time people take a few seconds to stop and smell the Folgers, and realize maybe Allen and Shanahan just might not be the saviors all of us envisioned. I understand the longing for consistency, but if you cannot at least get close to the playoffs with an NFL caliber squad in the past 7 years of head coaching, you are just not that good of a coach. No matter if you won 2 super bowls with arguably the top quarterback of all time. You're just not.

The team was worse? They were 8-8 and had 4 Pro Bowl players on that team. (2008) Portis rushed for almost 1500 yards. Campbell had 3000+ yards and more TDs than INTs.

And you can't possibly be saying they were better in 2009 because we finished 4-12.

I don't think we're THAT bad.

Or a new coat of paint on section 8 housing. Inside, It might have a 70 inch LED 3dtv (RG3), but you're still in downtown detroit. Our defense would be the crumbling foundation, and the old lead based paint chips falling off all over the place. Of course our corners would be the overflowed toilet, and our safeties would be the rat and squirrel droppings in the dark dank corners.

(I don't know why I just typed that, I just kept going, just like the vast majority of my posts........)

That was awesome. Lmao.


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Gibbs was here 4 years.

Four years is a lifetime in the national football league. The league is structured, and I'm talking about the cap, the draft method, and FA, such that you can turn a franchise around in just three years. It's been done plenty.

Or a new coat of paint on section 8 housing. Inside, It might have a 70 inch LED 3dtv (RG3), but you're still in downtown detroit. Our defense would be the crumbling foundation, and the old lead based paint chips falling off all over the place. Of course our corners would be the overflowed toilet, and our safeties would be the rat and squirrel droppings in the dark dank corners.

(I don't know why I just typed that, I just kept going, just like the vast majority of my posts........)

This is the glass half empty look at it, it could also be looked as we have a brand new mansion in Beverly Hills, but we are sleeping on air mattresses with only a black and white TV.