Samari or Freddy?

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skinsfan0201
02-28-2005, 08:23 PM
SMOOT period, i hope we retain him, he is an extremely valuable member.(I just hope that he is the ultimate answer ! :) )

TheMalcolmConnection
02-28-2005, 10:02 PM
I'm also starting to think that rather than going on a spending spree why NOT give Wilds a chance? I mean does anyone else think that the defense would COMPLETELY fall apart if Wilds was a bust, I mean he's there for a reason.

offiss
02-28-2005, 10:27 PM
Reading Jeff Fisher's comment's on Rolle I think we should sign him immediatly so long as we can make the money work.

BigSKINBauer
02-28-2005, 10:32 PM
obviously we will be good but there is always room for improvement. i know it is hard to imagine but let me tell you that it is POSSIBLE to get better than us, yes,it sounds obsurd. better then us? never how could it be!? but it is true i have a dream a dream not to be number 1 next year but to be greater to be in the elite group of defenses in the past the ones that the legends look down and say THEY, they are one of us. and in my dream greg williams led us to that promise land

to say that we don't want to spend the $ because our defense would to be saying that we don't want even smoot. i mean do we really need another CB but i would be willing to spend tops 12 million on smoot not 14 not a penny more, more than that could be spent on other positions that are more needed. but it seems that we are getting a CB and if we are spending 15 million i think we should get the best and that is ty and i know it is far fetched but it is obvious that gibbs and williams did talk about ty within the last few days. I thinnk that w/ rolle or ty we would have two number 1s either ty or rolle and then springs. 2 number 1s that could cover the # 1 WRs of the opposing teams it would be great. Smoot is good but i don't know how well he would match against someone like moss... he won't have to but i don't put him to elite number 1 material yet. as a second any of these guys including smoot would be the best in the league and we would hands down have the best corner set in the league. i personally would try to keep smoot w/10million and then if not then do the transitional tag i think it is called but i don't know all the details so if that is not possible then i would save that cash for our offense and work on our back ups and make sure we sign pierce because we don't have anyone that can take his place b/c barrow seems done.

Rolle and Ty are Leeet and with them we would be better and would be able to do lots more i mean ty or springs on a second reciever we could send more blitzes and not lose much. we would have the coverage down field and send LBs to attack.

Remember we are not forced into doing anything and williams and gibbs i trust will do what is best for the team, i don't trust danny but maybe in a year or two he will be on the trust list.

BigSKINBauer
02-28-2005, 10:37 PM
Reading Jeff Fisher's comment's on Rolle I think we should sign him immediatly so long as we can make the money work.

i didn't read it......wat is so compeling?

wolfeskins
02-28-2005, 10:40 PM
he's there to be a backup(wilds). we have to sign a good corner to go along with springs. i like smoot but i feel rolle is a better corner , so therfore he's going to cost a little more but like i stated earlier greg williams probably wants rolle more so than smoot.

BigSKINBauer
02-28-2005, 10:45 PM
true but if everything falls through do we need to spend 14+ million on a second CB i would be fine spending tops 12 for smoot and 10 for anyone else. If we are going to spend 14 million i say we get rolle not smoot. we need LEEEET CBs for that money and i trust GW's descion and what he says

Promise land 05-06

Redskins8588
02-28-2005, 10:49 PM
If Rolle is better at blitzing the QB than Smoot was, then I could understand why Williams wants Rolle. I saw Smoot last year miss a couple of sacks because he kept his head down and didnt see the QB side step him, or he tried to arm tackle the QB instead of just making a good open field form tackle.

Although CB's usually are not asked to rush the QB that often so I kinda let that slide with Smoot, I mean CB's are needed in coverage and run support not rushing the QB.

As for heart, Smoot is all heart and then some, he just loves to play the game hurt or not.

VTSkins897
02-28-2005, 11:36 PM
i like smoot... fan fave... maybe after testing the FA market and not gettin the money he thinks he will we'll retain him.

That Guy
03-01-2005, 12:02 AM
I think the talks with rolle are happening for a couple reasons...
A) To take away leverage from Smoot
B) As a safety net in case smoot is justs delaying a decision until march 2nd to take a look at other offers regardless of the skins offer (the skins FO arent the only people allowed to be shady)
C) We got a steal on springs since he was injured, and getting a CB like rolle cheaply is a hard thing to do...
D) Of all the CBs on the market, rolle is the best option for us (he's 28, knows the defense and is a better cover corner when healthy, and will be cheap price/performance right now)

Why not try for ty law?
Ty law is older and much more expensive... he also has never played for williams defense.

I've watched rolle play, and he's GOOD... i can see him getting 7 ints next year... the only knock on him is his injuries and how much they're going to affect his play in the future...

The only thing better than having the best #2 CB is having two #1s... and then former starter walt harris and wilds as your backups... crazy...

I'll trust williams for now, since he's the only capable GM in the FO right now... and remember, even if we give smoot what he wants, he might just delay till the 2nd and walk anyways.



I love Smoot and the way he plays with such heart, but should we pay him top 5 corner type of money just for the sake of holding on to a 'leader'?

I wouldn't say for the sake of a "leader" but I would say for the sake of someone who we KNOW what we are getting. There's no guarantee that Rolle would pan out.

We had no gaurantee springs would pan out either... and he only got a $10mill SB (and he's not bitter either).

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