DynamiteRave
10-21-2012, 11:56 PM
RG3 and the offense had to come up with heroics at the end because of their earlier miscues. I am not trying to say the our defense is good, I am saying that our offense is not good enough to overcome their mistakes for 3 quarters of the game and one big mistake by the defense at the end of the game. New England may be able to do that, or Green Bay or even last year's Saints, but not our offense.
Since the big f*ck up happened to the most criticized unit of the defense, people are forgetting the many errors that the offense made earlier in the game.
In the end, you cannot win the game by turning the ball over 3 times, not converting points off turnovers, and going 0-2 in the redzone against a team that is really good at coming back and has outscored its opponents in the 4th quarter all season.
I had forgotten all about the first series, where the drive stalled at the 2 yard line. Boy, that kinda hurts.
Ruhskins
10-22-2012, 12:01 AM
I had forgotten all about the first series, where the drive stalled at the 2 yard line. Boy, that kinda hurts.
And the 3rd and 5 on the 17 yd line that ended in a -8 yd sack.
rbanerjee23
10-22-2012, 12:02 AM
RG3 and the offense had to come up with heroics at the end because of their earlier miscues. I am not trying to say the our defense is good, I am saying that our offense is not good enough to overcome their mistakes for 3 quarters of the game and one big mistake by the defense at the end of the game. New England may be able to do that, or Green Bay or even last year's Saints, but not our offense.
Since the big f*ck up happened to the most criticized unit of the defense, people are forgetting the many errors that the offense made earlier in the game.
In the end, you cannot win the game by turning the ball over 3 times, not converting points off turnovers, and going 0-2 in the redzone against a team that is really good at coming back and has outscored its opponents in the 4th quarter all season.
That's where you are mistaken -- despite all their mistakes, with 1:30 left in the game THEY WERE WINNING!! so your basic premise is wrong.
skinsfan69
10-22-2012, 12:05 AM
I remember when we were signing all these cast offs and I was just shaking my head. I knew this was going to be a long year in the secondary. We have no push rush and no pass defense. Even Fletcher at times looked old and slow.
Ruhskins
10-22-2012, 12:08 AM
That's where you are mistaken -- despite all their mistakes, with 1:30 left in the game THEY WERE WINNING!! so your basic premise is wrong.
You don't beat teams like the Giants with small leads and our defense is not good enough to protect small leads. You can continue to be simple-minded and keep harping on just the defense and one big blown coverage. But if our offense doesn't commit these big errors earlier in the game, this game is not even close at the end.
rbanerjee23
10-22-2012, 12:19 AM
You don't beat teams like the Giants with small leads and our defense is not good enough to protect small leads. You can continue to be simple-minded and keep harping on just the defense and one big blown coverage. But if our offense doesn't commit these big errors earlier in the game, this game is not even close at the end.
So we've resorted to name calling -- the offense played a very average game, mixing long drives with missed opportunities (0-2 in the RZ like you mentioned) and way too many turnovers. The defense played a pretty good game overall forcing Eli into two interceptions. But with about 3 minutes left in the game, the redskins offense marched down the field on a Giants defense that is pretty much the same one that won the SB and suffocated the 49ers (arguably the best team in the NFC). That one drive, in my opinion, made up for their earlier miscues. You mentioned that the had a small lead, true -- but there was also a minute and a half left in the game and the Giants had to go 77 yards. The redskins defense was unable to stop them when it counted and that is what cost the game. You can call me simple-minded if you wish but it doesn't change the fact that the Redskins offense did a bad job not putting the game away, but the Redskins defense actively lost the game.
As usual some people put way too much stock in coaching and stuff like play calling.
Talent wins you games in this league. We don't have enough of it in the secondary right now.
redskins4lif
10-22-2012, 12:27 AM
I think they should do something kinda what they did with the 3rd year under Gregg Williams the year when sean taylor died. I would just put a saftey in the middle of the field basically a center fielder and tell him make sure no one gets behind you just be the deepest person on the field
FRPLG
10-22-2012, 12:34 AM
As usual some people put way too much stock in coaching and stuff like play calling.
Talent wins you games in this league. We don't have enough of it in the secondary right now.
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Bubba305-ST21-
10-22-2012, 12:35 AM
ok horrible idea, we have no safety on the roster with that athleticism and range to do that