Skins/Giants post game thread

Goat horns to our receivers. What a pathetic way to give them the game, Moss.

This one is tough to take. But did anyone really trust our defense when NY got the ball back at the end? But I'll give them some credit. They get turnovers to make up for their awful play. The two biggest plays of the game was that leg whip dog shit call, and the illegal shift. I didn't see anything on either call. And I hate to call out the refs but those two calls sucked shit and perhaps costed us the game.

Not at all; with our defensive history of late coupled with Manning's 4th quarter heroics of late, a score was pretty much guaranteed. As a matter of fact I was a little relieved that the Skins gave up the TD as quickly as they did so as to give the offense a chance to score in the end.

Here are my postgame thoughts:
The future always looks bleaker after a loss, but two decades of incompetence does justify pessimism. I’m worried that this team will never be good for RGIII. It’s not like the skill level on the team is going to improve anytime soon. The skins don’t have a first round draft pick until 2015, and with the salary cap penalty they have little room to improve through free agency. The overall skill on the team is likely to decrease over the next two seasons. No matter how good RGIII is, I question the patience of Redskins fans if—after three seasons—he still hasn’t captained a winning team. And it’s a slippery slope once fans start questioning the QB. But of course, that’s getting a little bit ahead of things. The main point I have is this: even with one of the best QBs in the league, it’s possible that a team can be subpar, and with the salary cap situation, the draft picks situation, and the fact that the FO hasn’t been entirely competent even in the best of situations, there is a possibility that the Redskins can—for years—be a team with the one of the best QBs in the league and not be a winning team .

Mike Ditka just ripped the Redskins defensive scheme. Basically calling out Haslett for letting that last play unfold as it did..

Interesting take on the Giants game-winning TD by Chris Russell:

***On the game-winning TD pass from Eli Manning to Victor Cruz - the Redskins had double coverage and Cruz with his blazing speed just split Josh Wilson and Madieu Williams. It happens. It's not Jim Haslett's fault, and I will say this - it's not even Josh Wilson or Madieu Williams fault. It's just a great talent in Cruz who was stifled all day, making a great play in rhythm with his QB, Eli Manning. Oh and there is this - these guys won a Super Bowl last year, and Eli has won two -- tip your cap to them -- champions make big plays when they need them the most.

That is a fair statement.... It just doesnt make the pain go away...

What if:

What if Moss had stopped at the 1 yard line. And we could have run more time off the clock?

All the Shanahan bashing is ridiculous. He's made his mistakes but I think he's got this team on the right track. Blowing it up after this year would be the worst thing we could do. But I would like to see him get a new D-coordinator.

Well, here are my quick thoughts (editor's note: I'll bring "Smoot Lays the Smack Down" when Meriweather, Garcon or Brown return)

RG3: The scramble and thrown on 4th and 10 was incredible. Clearly showed his athletic ability. But more importantly, that's the type of play that more often than not a rookie QB loses sense of where he is and crosses the line of scrimmage before throwing the ball. Good presence of mind on his part. But he can't be absolved for the TOs. The fumble looked like poor awareness on his part. The INT to Paulsen looked like a miscommunication between the two of them. Probably doesn't happen with Davis in there.

Kyle Shanahan: Think he's insanely talented and he'd be missed. But his problem, which I've said before, is that he thinks too hard sometimes. Run on 3rd down? No problem with that. The Redskins had been showing an inability to hold onto the ball and you want to stay in FG range so if you can get 3 and hold them to 3 you're still just down 7. Run an option? Ok, that's a bit of a stretch (no pun intended) but we have the talent to pull it off. Run an option with Niles Paul at that point in the game? That's thinking too hard. That's "they don't expect this so I'll fool them with this" Sometimes you gotta just go with the most obvious play and personnel and execute. Sometimes you gotta just rely on the brawns and not the brains.

Turnovers: The turnovers were terrible but I have a hard time getting worked up over them, because twice we got the ball right back on our turnovers. Heck of an athletic play by Rob Jackson on his INT by the way.

Secondary: I can't really blame the scheme in this scenario. Williams simply made a poor play.

What if:

What if Moss had stopped at the 1 yard line. And we could have run more time off the clock?

As Moss crossed the goal line I shouted, "No! We scored too fast!"

This is essentially the same secondary we had last year, so why were they so much better last year?