Players view on the Coles situation

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MTK
02-27-2005, 12:30 AM
Coles-Moss deal unlikely (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56736-2005Feb26.html)

"You don't want to have somebody that doesn't want to be there," said linebacker Antonio Pierce in a phone interview. "If he's unhappy, he's going to make other people unhappy. We don't need that kind of negativity.

"L.C. plays hard, and guys respected him for that. But you need everybody on the same page. He wasn't a distraction, but you could tell he wasn't happy. If he came back, he would definitely be a distraction."

Quarterback Patrick Ramsey, who has reclaimed his starting role, apparently would welcome Coles. According to a source close to Ramsey, he was stunned by Coles's desire to leave. Before Ramsey lost his job following the 2003 season, the two had formed a rapport as Coles finished with 82 catches and 1,204 yards plus a team-high six touchdowns.

Right guard Randy Thomas praised Coles for not making his displeasure public last season while performing with spirit. But Thomas added: "If your heart is not here, why even come back in the building?"

One veteran defensive player believes that Coles is showing his true colors despite his reputation for being the quintessential team player. "Why doesn't he give Coach a chance?" said the player who joined Washington last season.

Linebacker Marcus Washington, like most teammates, was conflicted about the subject: "Whatever decision he makes, he has to live with those consequences. He's a tough guy. He's one of my friends. I don't want him to leave. I don't know all the details, but if I know Laveranues. I don't think Laveranues is quitting on anything."

"Maybe he wasn't able to adjust to a new coach," Pierce said. "He was hand-picked by Spurrier, Dan and Vinny. Guys on defense can adjust since it seems like we have a different coordinator every year. So change is no big deal. Some of us are able to adjust."

monk81
02-27-2005, 12:38 AM
At least some of the players are also sticking up for Gibbs and saying to give coach a chance.................

Sounds a little like the reaction to Ricky Williams from the Dolphins......at least their are SOME players loyal to the their teams and coaches.

Shane
02-27-2005, 01:03 AM
Things are complicated, but as the deadline approaches, things may shift. We'll see where things are on March 1.

Daseal
02-27-2005, 01:52 AM
I love how the man who wants to test free agency waters and won't sign, what i'm sure is a very very fair deal, tells Coles how if he doesn't want to be here he better not bring his negativity around. Wow - give me an award for the best run on sentence! If it weren't 1am I'd fix it!

Anyhow - Pierce has little room to be critical of Coles.

SmootSmack
02-27-2005, 01:55 AM
Those are some interesting comments. I wonder who the veteran defensive player is who says he believes Coles is showing his true colors...Springs, Griffin, Salave'a?

And it's interesting that AP says Coles wasn't a distraction last year but he definitely would be this year. And he's definitely speaking like someone who plans on coming back. I wonder though if he'd be as inclined to come back if Coles is there. Sounds like he doesn't want to have to deal with the negativity that Coles might bring with him in '05.

And finally, here's something Randy Thomas told the Washington Post earlier this week, "Why would you not want to play for Gibbs? He's a player's coach."

MTK
02-27-2005, 01:56 AM
Pierce is talking like a guy who seems to know he's going to be with the Redskins next year, or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.

Daseal
02-27-2005, 01:58 AM
Players coach... Coles was handcuffed by routes and sick of losing all the time is my guess. I think Gibbs is GREAT with players - don't get me wrong. To some people, a nice guy being your coach isn't what you want. See Norv Turner. Nicest guy in the world - that doesn't mean players will play hard.

I feel players are willing to play hard for Joe Gibbs and he is absolutely amazing at leading guys. I just think that there's trouble on the horizon when your two starting WRs want out of the offense. Maybe that's just me. I think some people may be more optimistic than Coles.

SKINSnCANES
02-27-2005, 03:55 AM
i know you didnt get every players opinion and post their quote, but in general I like the attitude I am hearing. you didnt hear a lot of 'its a business' type of talk. Everythign focused on teh team, and not the player.

offiss
02-27-2005, 04:12 AM
Players coach... Coles was handcuffed by routes and sick of losing all the time is my guess. I think Gibbs is GREAT with players - don't get me wrong. To some people, a nice guy being your coach isn't what you want. See Norv Turner. Nicest guy in the world - that doesn't mean players will play hard.

I feel players are willing to play hard for Joe Gibbs and he is absolutely amazing at leading guys. I just think that there's trouble on the horizon when your two starting WRs want out of the offense. Maybe that's just me. I think some people may be more optimistic than Coles.


Agreed! Gardner who cares, but Coles is a different story, obviously the nod goes to Gibb's I hope he get's the offense turned around in a hurry because the honeymoon is over as far as a mutiny is concerned.

saden1
02-27-2005, 04:56 AM
Pierce has said all the right things. He said he wants to find out what he is worth on the market and if the Redskins match it, which he expects, he'll stick with the Redskins as they are his #1 choice. Seems to me like that is more than reasonable. I am sure there isn't a single person in here who doesn't know what they are worth on the market (http://www.salary.com).

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