The guy was 1-4 in the playoffs after Elway. He did NOTHING during a very long stretch. And he had some of the worst defenses in the league during his tenure. Joe Gibbs won twice as many victories in his short time back than SHanahan did in, what, 10 or 11 years with a program that HE built? Sorry, your not gonna tell me because Shanahan was not the GM, that he didn't make the personell decisions in Denver. I lived there, and the guy had the last word, every Bronco fan knew it. Its just he couldn't do squat with the team that he himself built, and after 3 years here, name something other than RG3 that he has accomplished.
I guess there is Larry Johnson and OJ Atogwe.
Every Bronco fan? Knew something.....?
......like every Redskin fan....? Knows something....?
Fans KNOW exactly whatever Coach-speak the team Decides they can....know. Nothing more. Thinking otherwise is......absurd.
skinsfaninok
09-28-2012, 08:24 PM
I've never seen so many talk about Cleveland like this lol hell their fans should just join us
Skinzman
09-28-2012, 08:27 PM
why are you lumping kerrigan and griff together in your trade for gabbert scenario?
Instead of drafting Gabbert, we traded down and let Gabbert go to Jax. Our lower first round pick we got from Jax in that trade netted us Kerrigan. If we do draft Gabbert instead of trading down for Kerigan, we DO NOT go after RG3 since we already have our young QB.
Chico23231
09-28-2012, 08:28 PM
Every team has nice pieces, even the Browns and raiders do. Touting his first round picks as reason to be optimistic, well, okay, but i'd say the percentage of him drafting a good player in that round is fairly high. He did pick up Alfred Morris though, so I will give him that. And Hankerson looks ok, but his drafting record here at the skins isn't glorious by any means, and of course he can't miss on all of them. Hiring Haslett as DC, was that a good move? Its putting those few pieces that he does have together and building a winner that counts, and sorry, but other than RG3, I don't think this squad is any closer to a perennial contender than we were 3 years ago. It hasn't shown in the win loss column, thats for sure, and like i've said before, when are you all going to get tired of, "next year is our year, thats when we will really see progress." BTW, the Arizona cardinals are doing fairly well, and noone thought they were going to do squat before the season. NOONE. Shanahan, I'm afraid to say, is looking more and more like a has been that is coaching off of credentials from over a decade ago, sorry to say.
Its not that I don't want him to be good, its just that he's not.
ONE PLAYOFF WIN IN 12 years.....................optimistic? Hardly.
:doh:
Skinzman
09-28-2012, 08:32 PM
I can see reading comprehension in this thread has gone out the window...
Mooby and Gary84clark... Please pay attention to the /Sarcasm at the end of my post next time when claiming that I called Gabbert a Stud QB...
punch it in
09-28-2012, 08:34 PM
I've never seen so many talk about Cleveland like this lol hell their fans should just join us
But keep it in perspective. The point is how they stack up against us? Not how they stack up against the rest of the nfl. I dont think anybody is saying they are going to the playoffs We are going to find out thats for sure. Its just that two weeks ago this was not even a discussion. The thing i cant figure out about us as a team is that for as long as i remember we were in close games that we lost and it was always because we didnt have a qb. Now it appears as though we are losing close games and they are only close BECAUSE we have a qb?? Wtf??
skinsfaninok
09-28-2012, 08:39 PM
But keep it in perspective. The point is how they stack up against us? Not how they stack up against the rest of the nfl. I dont think anybody is saying they are going to the playoffs We are going to find out thats for sure. Its just that two weeks ago this was not even a discussion. The thing i cant figure out about us as a team is that for as long as i remember we were in close games that we lost and it was always because we didnt have a qb. Now it appears as though we are losing close games and they are only close BECAUSE we have a qb?? Wtf??
I think we beat Cleveland by 14 if we played today
Just listening to NFL radio today Browns fans sure have a different view of things than you guys that's for sure.
Maybe I'm reading their 0-4 record wrong or something.
Lol, dont you know the grass is alwaysand greener, matty?
punch it in
09-28-2012, 09:08 PM
I think we beat Cleveland by 14 if we played today
I wouldnt be shocked. Nor would i be shocked if we didnt. Anyway how did all this browns talk begin arent we playing the bucs this week?
skinsfaninok
09-28-2012, 09:10 PM
I wouldnt be shocked. Nor would i be shocked if we didnt. Anyway how did all this browns talk begin arent we playing the bucs this week?
Yes I just want a damn win! Most are picking Tampa to win so maybe that's a good thing for us