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If they had a top 10 defense this might actually be a discussion worth having.

If they had a top 10 defense this might actually be a discussion worth having.


I tried but busy at work to look up their numbers but are their DEF numbers off because they played 4 games vs. our 3?

You prolonged the discussion so you must have thought it had some worth and by the reactions of others it seems like a legit conversation to have.

I think you are discounting their schedule and over valuing our schedule. Rams, Saints and Bengals all have crappy DEF's so our high offense ranking is a bit bloated.

Browns DEF so far:

Ravens (4th Offense)
Eagles (5th Offense)
Cincy (8th O)
Bills (11th O)

They have basically faced 4 top ten offenses.

Source Data for O rankings:

NFL Stats: by Team Category (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1)

At least we've won a division and a few playoff games.... Lol

Hail that.
:)

I tried but busy at work to look up their numbers but are their DEF numbers off because they played 4 games vs. our 3?

You prolonged the discussion so you must have thought it had some worth and by the reactions of others it seems like a legit conversation to have.

I think you are discounting their schedule and over valuing our schedule. Rams, Saints and Bengals all have crappy DEF's so our high offense ranking is a bit bloated.

Browns DEF so far:

Ravens (4th Offense)
Eagles (5th Offense)
Cincy (8th O)
Bills (11th O)

They have basically faced 4 top ten offenses.

I was just tying to figure out what's to like about a defense that's almost as bad as ours. We faced the Bengals too and the Saints still have an offense that can move the ball and score at will.

:(

I think when you look back at how badly we've been outcoached thus far, then look ahead to the remaining schedule, it's pretty easy to see a 4-12 or 5-11 season.

It's especially frustrating for someone who isn't "surrounded" by Skins fans drinking the kool-aid i.e. I have a ton of friends and fam who are Denver fans and not a single one thinks Shanahan deserves an HC job...anywhere. I think commentators are sympethetic to him because of the two SBs, but again when you look close it was really his coordinators, John Elway, Sharpe, Davis and a top defense that produced those trophies. I truly think any HC would have won with those teams.

I was just tying to figure out what's to like about a defense that's almost as bad as ours. We faced the Bengals too and the Saints still have an offense that can move the ball and score at will.

Well we also played STL (28th ranking) and they scored at will on us. SO this week we have TB (32nd ranking). If they run up the score on us I think it is safe to say CLE has a better DEF then us.

Michael Vick is off to a poor start this season, but he's confident he can lead the Philadelphia Eagles to success - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8431550/michael-vick-a-poor-start-season-confident-lead-philadelphia-eagles-success)

Remind me again why did they signed him to a 100 million contract?



I'd give the Skins the edge because of their offense.

Just like us, Cleveland is giving up a ton of yards on defense. What is it that you like about their defense?


They are giving up 10 less points per game though.


Skins- giving up 34 points per game

Browns - giving up 24.5 point per game



Browns have a better defense. Giving up yards really doesn't mean squat unless your opponent is punching it in the end zone.

At this point why am I still on this board???? I just got some cool Brown's stuff at lunch and a Richardson jersey.

Cleveland ROCKS!

Superman Celebration | CharlotteObserver.com (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/09/25/3556227/hello-kitty-cam-newton.html)

The boys in Charlotte are already clowning Cam with his pouting. (as well as Steve Smith)


http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2012/09/25/16/07/29eX.HiLa.138.jpg


I'm so glad that he's not on our squad.

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