Lotus
09-17-2012, 05:43 PM
Here's something though: were the DBs just losing personal battles? It really didn't look like it to me.
IMO the DB's looked worse than they were because the front 7 did not win their personal battles.
TheSmurfs22
09-17-2012, 06:08 PM
how bad is our secondary?
Bad enough to make a thread for it apparently..
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haha!
punch it in
09-17-2012, 06:25 PM
Third round picks are not usually penciled in as day one starters.
No, but when you say usually I am assuming that means a team that has solid depth. Also maybe not a starter, but still getting playing time as a safety or corner. That Lerib pick has baffled the hell out of me since we made it.
punch it in
09-17-2012, 06:27 PM
The poor defensive showing is all on Haslett.
Exactly. The Giants had a piss poor secondary ravaged by injuries last year and won a superbowl.
Not all picks are going to contribute right off the bat. We could just as easily have a 3rd round rookie RT or DB riding the pine too. A guy like LeRibeus is one injury away from being an important player.
takethecake
09-17-2012, 06:33 PM
Exactly. The Giants had a piss poor secondary ravaged by injuries last year and won a superbowl.
Speaking of which, did you see Justin Tryon get embarrasingly beaten for a TD again yesterday? Last week Miles Austin, this week Mike Williams...
punch it in
09-17-2012, 06:36 PM
Speaking of which, did you see Justin Tryon get embarrasingly beaten for a TD again yesterday? Last week Miles Austin, this week Mike Williams...
Yeah, he is in there as a third stringer. Thats my point though is that one of our cast offs is starting for them and they still manage to win. Because unlike Haslett they are able to adjust and scheme with who they have and somehow make it work - it surely isnt because of the talent (Tryon?!?) I totally blame Haslett.
takethecake
09-17-2012, 06:37 PM
Conclusion: Three years isn't enough time or draft picks to address every area of the team. I conclude this because it's right there in black in white. Point out the starters they should have drafted and then pick who you subtract from the team to draft him.
They have had literally NO chance to use a high pick on a top DB without sacrificing an IMPACT player in other areas that were even less stocked with talent than the secondary was.
The previous administration left them with a big contract (Hall), two low character guys coming into their first free agency with talent but also with clear undeniable issues and zero depth.
Great post, I completely agree. Another thing to point out is that St Louis did their homework before this game. They knew that if they played a dropback passing game like Brees did last week their patchwork o-line would get destroyed by our pass rush, so they smartly based their offense around 3-step drops. Of course, the fact that we used a soft zone 10 yards off their receivers didn't help either, but basically, St Louis made our secondary look worse by gameplanning to nullify our defensive strengths and exploit our weaknesses.
punch it in
09-17-2012, 06:40 PM
Not all picks are going to contribute right off the bat. We could just as easily have a 3rd round rookie RT or DB riding the pine too. A guy like LeRibeus is one injury away from being an important player.
Yeah I am somewhat being a monday morning GM - but even during the draft I was thinking corner, safety, or RT. LeRibeus wasnt really on anybodies board at that time I dont think. I will accept Alfred Morris as a makeup pick though...........:)
Bucket
09-17-2012, 07:13 PM
Our secondary is our weakest link on the whole team at the moment, and it'll need to be addressed in the offseason, but as of now our front 7 could of covered our poor secondary play I thought IF Haslett played man up and put lots of pressure on teams, but the soft zone yesterday hoping for big INT's he had going yesterday is just going to make us look even worse every game here on out.