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aircoryell 09-19-2012, 09:11 PM Game is on NFL replay right now if anyone is interested.
Watching it now. One of the things that stands out to me is the poor play of Tyler Polumbus when the right side is the point of attack. He gets thrown out of the way too easily, does not sustain blocks, and is a liability on pass protection half the time.
The Goat 09-19-2012, 11:57 PM Just watched the replay on NFLN, and thought about starting a new thread but I don't think any of us want to spend much more time dissecting this game. Gotta make a few observations.
Offense
Polumbus is garbage. I realize Chris Long is very good, but Polumbus' effort is questionable and he regularly gets lost on blocking assignments or is just too slow getting there. There were at least a few instances where Polumbus just quit mid-play. He's got no business being on the field and we should be looking for another RT.
Run blocking is pretty consistent (apart from Polumbus) and the Rams do have a solid d line and LB corp. Unfortunately, until we get a RT who can consistently block a defender the ground attack cannot dominate and RGIII won't be comfortable in the pocket. Fred Davis is a better blocker than Polumbus btw...no joke.
Niles Paul has no business being on the field at this point, and it's arguable whether he should be an active player. He cannot block...anyone. On RGIII's first running TD Paul wasn't even close to getting a block on Finnegan. He held him and we're lucky it wasn't called. Paul couldn't block anyone, though luckily we didn't ask him to much. He's also a lousy pass-catching TE at this point. On the (only) pass I saw him catch in the 1st half he was indecisive and slow to get off his heels. All two TE sets should be Davis and Paulsen, and honestly we'd be better off putting Paul on the practice squad and bringing Cooley back.
RGIII is the offense. His pick happened because Polumbus hardly slowed Long down and RGIII didn't have anywhere to run, so he should have taken the sack. RGIII did stare his target (Davis I think) down, which pulled Finnegan off Moss for the INT. Had Polumbus done anything on this play RGIII would probably have seen Moss and turned it into a nice downfield play.
Finally, Morgan was losing his cool by the start of the 4th quarter. He's got the physical ability, but his head isn't right to be a starter.
Defense
Lotus is correct, the d line didn't show up for this one. Bradford got the ball out quickly most of the time but there wasn't any pressure to begin with. Still...we could have one this game if Haslett knew what he was doing. We needed to be out of zone coverage half-way through the 1st quarter. Tight man with a safety hovering over the Welker clone. Is it possible for Haslett to get his act together?
Perry Riley isn't making an impact, and may be a liability. I'm not sure he would start anywhere else. Rob Jackson is good enough to start if he wouldn't take plays off. I think the way to go is constant rotation between Jackson and Wilson, and if Jackson still takes plays off I'd bench him for good (just a backup).
I liked how Mike took responsibility for the special teams fail, gotta respect that.
Bucket 09-20-2012, 12:11 AM Just watched the replay on NFLN, and thought about starting a new thread but I don't think any of us want to spend much more time dissecting this game. Gotta make a few observations.
Offense
Polumbus is garbage. I realize Chris Long is very good, but Polumbus' effort is questionable and he regularly gets lost on blocking assignments or is just too slow getting there. There were at least a few instances where Polumbus just quit mid-play. He's got no business being on the field and we should be looking for another RT.
Run blocking is pretty consistent (apart from Polumbus) and the Rams do have a solid d line and LB corp. Unfortunately, until we get a RT who can consistently block a defender the ground attack cannot dominate and RGIII won't be comfortable in the pocket. Fred Davis is a better blocker than Polumbus btw...no joke.
Niles Paul has no business being on the field at this point, and it's arguable whether he should be an active player. He cannot block...anyone. On RGIII's first running TD Paul wasn't even close to getting a block on Finnegan. He held him and we're lucky it wasn't called. Paul couldn't block anyone, though luckily we didn't ask him to much. He's also a lousy pass-catching TE at this point. On the (only) pass I saw him catch in the 1st half he was indecisive and slow to get off his heels. All two TE sets should be Davis and Paulsen, and honestly we'd be better off putting Paul on the practice squad and bringing Cooley back.
RGIII is the offense. His pick happened because Polumbus hardly slowed Long down and RGIII didn't have anywhere to run, so he should have taken the sack. RGIII did stare his target (Davis I think) down, which pulled Finnegan off Moss for the INT. Had Polumbus done anything on this play RGIII would probably have seen Moss and turned it into a nice downfield play.
Finally, Morgan was losing his cool by the start of the 4th quarter. He's got the physical ability, but his head isn't right to be a starter.
Defense
Lotus is correct, the d line didn't show up for this one. Bradford got the ball out quickly most of the time but there wasn't any pressure to begin with. Still...we could have one this game if Haslett knew what he was doing. We needed to be out of zone coverage half-way through the 1st quarter. Tight man with a safety hovering over the Welker clone. Is it possible for Haslett to get his act together?
Perry Riley isn't making an impact, and may be a liability. I'm not sure he would start anywhere else. Rob Jackson is good enough to start if he wouldn't take plays off. I think the way to go is constant rotation between Jackson and Wilson, and if Jackson still takes plays off I'd bench him for good (just a backup).
I liked how Mike took responsibility for the special teams fail, gotta respect that.
We don't have the secondary to play a over man defense without crippling our pass rush. I don't see how people don't understand that. It's not Haslett, it's our lack of talent.
The Goat 09-20-2012, 12:13 AM We don't have the secondary to play a over man defense without crippling our pass rush. I don't see how people don't understand that. It's not Haslett, it's our lack of talent.
Then why did we have far better pass rush against the Saints while holding man coverage nearly all game?
Bucket 09-20-2012, 12:32 AM Then why did we have far better pass rush against the Saints while holding man coverage nearly all game?
Because we didn't..
I wouldn't call 31 points stopping anyone. Josh Wilson, Carriker, and Orakpo were in the game against the Saints and they have nobody who is at the speed of Amendola in their WR core.
Yeah, we can coat it that Bree's had a suspect game and we limited his completions, etc. Our scheme against the Saints was almost identical to the one we ran against the Rams. A few more Man coverages, but that's because of one reason.......
Rams WR's are superior in speed to our DB's which the Saints are not. I would of preferred to see more of Crawford in the game vs the Rams because even though he is young and new to the defense. He has the quickest feet of all our secondary.
CultBrennan59 09-20-2012, 01:35 AM Because we didn't..
I wouldn't call 31 points stopping anyone. Josh Wilson, Carriker, and Orakpo were in the game against the Saints and they have nobody who is at the speed of Amendola in their WR core.
Yeah, we can coat it that Bree's had a suspect game and we limited his completions, etc. Our scheme against the Saints was almost identical to the one we ran against the Rams. A few more Man coverages, but that's because of one reason.......
Rams WR's are superior in speed to our DB's which the Saints are not. I would of preferred to see more of Crawford in the game vs the Rams because even though he is young and new to the defense. He has the quickest feet of all our secondary.
Devery Henderson, Lance Moore...Really?!?
Bucket 09-20-2012, 03:18 AM Devery Henderson, Lance Moore...Really?!?
Really..... im not going to debate who is quicker or faster, etc.
You guys read in to stats to much, but we all watched the same game. Our secondary never really stopped anyone in either game. That blame can be put on Haslett, Morris, front office, Head Coach, and players themselves. Not just one man.
Chico23231 09-20-2012, 11:45 AM https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/09/20/signature-stats-leaders-week-2/
There is Polumbus 4th worst pass blocking, allowing QB pressures
But a positive, Josh Wilson 2nd best CB allowing yards again in coverage. Thats awesome.
The Goat 09-20-2012, 01:02 PM https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/09/20/signature-stats-leaders-week-2/
There is Polumbus 4th worst pass blocking, allowing QB pressures
But a positive, Josh Wilson 2nd best CB allowing yards again in coverage. Thats awesome.
Nice find boss. Wilson is a keeper for sure.
The Goat 09-20-2012, 02:08 PM One other thing I noticed watching the replay is Kerrigan gets respect out there! I keyed on him quite a bit and just didn't see the Rams get chippy the way they did with other guys.
The Ram (forget who) slamming on London after the whistle made you want to throw the remote at the TV...wish we had one that game.
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