All things Middle East related

Yeah I disagree with all of our old and new elected leaders on this. I support Israel's right to defend itself, but that doesn't include killing civilians who want nothing to do with that conflict.

Same, Netanyahu has got to go.

Yeah I disagree with all of our old and new elected leaders on this. I support Israel's right to defend itself, but that doesn't include killing civilians who want nothing to do with that conflict.

Have they killed any civilians that have nothing to do with the conflict? I'm just pointing out there is a distinction. The Iranian shootdown of the Ukrainian passenger plane in Tehran a few years back was an example of killing civilians with nothing to do with the conflict. But the civilians killed in Gaza have a lot to do with the Gaza conflict. Hamas specifically uses them as part of their defensive tactics, as human shields. As for not wanting anything to do with it the vast majority of the civilian adults actively support Hamas in Gaza. With a few exceptions (you will always find war criminal activity in any war) all of Israeli targeting has been legal and within the rules of war (Yes there are rules), while virtually none of Hamas's activities would.

I highly doubt creating IDF safe zones and then killing people inside safe zones is legal in the rules of war. I doubt targeting aid workers bringing food that once again was approved by IDF is legal. Lets be honest the rules of war are really just guidelines and not actual rules a nation has to follow. The IDf is very guide at killing innocent people and then saying "my bad"

Here is another example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/10/un-says-lives-of-staff-endangered-in-israeli-halt-of-gaza-polio-vaccine-convoy

I highly doubt creating IDF safe zones and then killing people inside safe zones is legal in the rules of war. I doubt targeting aid workers bringing food that once again was approved by IDF is legal. Lets be honest the rules of war are really just guidelines and not actual rules a nation has to follow. The IDf is very guide at killing innocent people and then saying "my bad"

Here is another example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/10/un-says-lives-of-staff-endangered-in-israeli-halt-of-gaza-polio-vaccine-convoy

No actually they are rules that have to be followed. If you break them you can be prosecuted. (BTW in your example nothing I read would have violated those rules). Problem is most people don't understand those rules which leads to wild claims of war crimes being committed by those following the rules while ignoring the actual war criminals who are violating those rules.

Good to know violating humans rights is allowed in war and you can be excused. Kind of like a doctors note. So American citizens visiting their family and delivering aid is okay and Israel shouldn't be held accountable in your book?

Have they killed any civilians that have nothing to do with the conflict? I'm just pointing out there is a distinction. The Iranian shootdown of the Ukrainian passenger plane in Tehran a few years back was an example of killing civilians with nothing to do with the conflict. But the civilians killed in Gaza have a lot to do with the Gaza conflict. Hamas specifically uses them as part of their defensive tactics, as human shields. As for not wanting anything to do with it the vast majority of the civilian adults actively support Hamas in Gaza. With a few exceptions (you will always find war criminal activity in any war) all of Israeli targeting has been legal and within the rules of war (Yes there are rules), while virtually none of Hamas's activities would.

They have killed Women and Children for God's sake!

They have killed Women and Children for God's sake!

Who are being used as human shields.

Who are being used as human shields.

"who have nothing to do with the Conflict".

"who have nothing to do with the Conflict".
Your definition of what is and not part of a conflict is very puzzling.

Your definition of what is and not part of a conflict is very puzzling.

JHC, this coming from a person who wrote and I quote"Have they killed any civilians that have nothing to do with the conflict? " end quote. Ever hear two wrongs don't make a right?