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I can’t even contribute political threads anymore. Drowning in hypocritical waters is a terrible death.

Not sure if the democrats or republicans are the hypocrites here. Doesn't even matter.

Last night after Braves all but clinched their division, I decided to have some adult beverages and watch some political shows. Instead of posting here in the political threads, as I normally would, I hit up the Movies thread. Much more enjoyable than posting something that would have started some arguments by the time I woke up this morning.

I think the Generals testimony was clear this week.

-Biden lied to the American people about the no one advised him to leave a force behind. And the generals said this is something they easily could have done to protect American interest

-Generals agree Afghanistan withdrawal was a large operational and strategic failure. Biden and the administration continues to lie and say it was a success.

-Generals put the blame squarely on the Biden administration State Department for leaving Americans behind

-General Milley knew within 4 hours the drone strike did not kill Isis terrorists and it most likely killed civilians. Yet the administration lied continuously for a weeks saying it struck a righteous target who was targeting American and American soldiers…all a lie.

Not sure if the democrats or republicans are the hypocrites here. Doesn't even matter.

Last night after Braves all but clinched their division, I decided to have some adult beverages and watch some political shows. Instead of posting here in the political threads, as I normally would, I hit up the Movies thread. Much more enjoyable than posting something that would have started some arguments by the time I woke up this morning.


I know you hate when I mention Trump but he was the Potus in very recent history and clearly has the Vast majority of the Republican party in his grips still. That being said, after the shitshow that was his presidency i have an extremely hard time listening to the right shout about almost anything the current administration does or says. Like dont put your blinders on for four years and than suddenly get up on your soapbox about politicians lying or mismanaging current affairs. Yes there is always been hypocrites on both sides - that is politics. But after Trump the right just needs to stfu for a few years because nobody has ever lied or deceived the American people like that ball bag just did.

I am rooting for the Braves to clinch the east btw. Hate the other teams. [emoji482]

And as i post this there is Chico up in arms about lies and deception. Lol. [emoji1750]

I know you hate when I mention Trump but he was the Potus in very recent history and clearly has the Vast majority of the Republican party in his grips still. That being said, after the shitshow that was his presidency i have an extremely hard time listening to the right shout about almost anything the current administration does or says. Like dont put your blinders on for four years and than suddenly get up on your soapbox about politicians lying or mismanaging current affairs. Yes there is always been hypocrites on both sides - that is politics. But after Trump the right just needs to stfu for a few years because nobody has ever lied or deceived the American people like that ball bag just did.

I am rooting for the Braves to clinch the east btw. Hate the other teams. [emoji482]

And as i post this there is Chico up in arms about lies and deception. Lol. [emoji1750]

You make a point that I am trying to understand and that is trump runs the republican party and I don't understand why? Ok , when he was president to be unified but he's a loser , he lost the election they can all run from him but they aren't ,why the hell not ?Bush is more of a Leader then Trump.

You make a point that I am trying to understand and that is trump runs the republican party and I don't understand why? Ok , when he was president to be unified but he's a loser , he lost the election they can all run from him but they aren't ,why the hell not ?Bush is more of a Leader then Trump.


It is simple G one. It has nothing to do with Trump. The Republican party (not the people but the lawmakers) knew and know he is a moron. However, his base can still vote for whoever they want. If Mitch McConnell talks smack about Trump guess what? He loses his job. Same can be said for any senator, congressmen, governor, mayor, school superintendent- he has absolutely polarized it all. You need to kiss his ass to keep or be put in a position of power if you are a Republican on any ticket anywhere for anything. If you do not kiss his ass he will vilify you to his sheep and they will vote you out. It is truly a cult of personality. One like this country has never seen. Why? Because that is normally not how a democracy works. It is how an autocracy works. It is dangerous. It is counter productive. It is un American. But maga people don’t give a fuck about any of that. They just want their Daddy to be happy.
In a nutshell Trump controls nothing but his base does. Not enough thank God. But when you split the country in half it is plenty to control one side. The right side.

It is simple G one. It has nothing to do with Trump. The Republican party (not the people but the lawmakers) knew and know he is a moron. However, his base can still vote for whoever they want. If Mitch McConnell talks smack about Trump guess what? He loses his job. Same can be said for any senator, congressmen, governor, mayor, school superintendent- he has absolutely polarized it all. You need to kiss his ass to keep or be put in a position of power if you are a Republican on any ticket anywhere for anything. If you do not kiss his ass he will vilify you to his sheep and they will vote you out. It is truly a cult of personality. One like this country has never seen. Why? Because that is normally not how a democracy works. It is how an autocracy works. It is dangerous. It is counter productive. It is un American. But maga people don’t give a fuck about any of that. They just want their Daddy to be happy.
In a nutshell Trump controls nothing but his base does. Not enough thank God. But when you split the country in half it is plenty to control one side. The right side.

Thanks, I guess I have to much faith in Americans to see threw the BS...................but then there is chico.

I..... But after Trump the right just needs to stfu for a few years because nobody has ever lied or deceived the American people like that ball bag just did.

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You are lumping in Never-Trumpers in this? After 6 years of criticizing the worst President in my lifetime, I think there is nothing wrong with criticizing the 2d worst President in my life time.

Agreed Biden is pretty awful.

You are lumping in Never-Trumpers in this? After 6 years of criticizing the worst President in my lifetime, I think I'm there is nothing wrong with criticizing the 2d worst President in my life time.


First of all it has been a hot minute with Biden. Second of all even if I grant you that he is in second place - which im not yet - the drop off between first and second is light years away.

No more wars unless 100% absolutely necessary and/or unpreventable. This is so sad.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/30000-american-veterans-troops-died-by-suicide-post-9-11-wars

"A staggering 30,177 American active military personnel and veterans involved in post-9/11 wars are estimated to have died by suicide – a figure at least four times greater than the 7,057 service members who were killed in combat during that time, a new research paper says."