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As does almost everybody.

We all knew we were leaving. And while one could- could- make an argument for remaining, most are fine with departing.

It is simply the manner in which it was done.

This is correct…

This is correct…


It is. The question remains though is why? I still believe that they thought they had waaaaaay more time. That is what everyone is saying that is in the know. Nobody on this board is privy to the intelligence that Biden was getting.
The fact that they are now sending troops back in to help with the evacuation is proof of this. Nobody knew the security forces left in Afghanistan were going to fold that quickly. Maybe some had a hunch, but I believe the Intelligence on the ground there was saying anywhere from 30-90 days before the Taliban could take Kabul.
And for Trump to come out and pounce on this as a political moment is laughable. When Congress voted to speed up the visa process for some there only 16 members voted against it - all republicans- all in Trumps circle , so dont turn around now and say I told you so. That is nothing more than them looking to rake Biden over the coals for this in hopes of 2022/4. I will admit Biden should have probably been more cautious with the withdraw - but Trumpers must admit that he would have listened to the same intelligence and done the same thing. He was chomping at the bit to get the troops out of there. This is your opportunity for a meet you in the middle moment Chico.

He's a Trumpster. Trumpsters aren't conservatives.

Jeez you went straight for the name calling/personal insult post, didn’t see that coming. Dare I say, very Trump of you.

Honestly thought this was a G1 post at first…who is the only “real” conservative on this board

It is. The question remains though is why? I still believe that they thought they had waaaaaay more time. That is what everyone is saying that is in the know. Nobody on this board is privy to the intelligence that Biden was getting.
The fact that they are now sending troops back in to help with the evacuation is proof of this. Nobody knew the security forces left in Afghanistan were going to fold that quickly. Maybe some had a hunch, but I believe the Intelligence on the ground there was saying anywhere from 30-90 days before the Taliban could take Kabul.

Oh no Biden royally fucked this

This big problem now is getting the estimated 10k Americans out the country.

Just thinking of the Afghanistan women it will be terrible for them

Oh no Biden royally fucked this

This big problem now is getting the estimated 10k Americans out the country.

Just thinking of the Afghanistan women it will be terrible for them


Do you honestly think Trump had a plan in place for the women there? What about the only 16 no votes in Congress about speeding up the visa process to get people out coming from 16 Trump Republicans? You can keep telling yourself it would have gone differently for Trump but you’re wrong. Intelligence was telling Biden 30-90 days - and Trump would have been told the same thing. This was a huge under estimation of the Taliban and a huge over estimation of the security forces by the Intelligence over there. That is all.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/afghanistan-withdrawal-trump-biden.amp

You are right. My rant and raving was a bit much yesterday. Apologies to you…SS and punch


I thought Smoot was back on the board for a minute. I miss that guy.

I thought Smoot was back on the board for a minute. I miss that guy.

Miss that dude…yeah Sunnyside is the SS now

Jeez you went straight for the name calling/personal insult post, didn’t see that coming. Dare I say, very Trump of you.

Honestly thought this was a G1 post at first…who is the only “real” conservative on this board

If you are not a Trumpster I apologize and since you think Trumpster is an insult that possibly indicates you aren't. So I am confused a bit as you defend him and seem to hold him in high esteem as Trumpsters would.

As for being a "real ' conservative - someone who supports Trump simply can't be a conservative. Trump wasn't a conservative so how can those who support him be? He is an isolationist, opposed to free trade, opposed legal immigration, opposed social security reform and spent like a drunk sailor. All those positions are anathema to conservatives (and at least 3 of them are dem positions).

The question you need to be asking yourself as a Trumper or Trump supporter or whatever the pc name is for you anti pc Trump folks (i know the irony is crazy ) is would Trump be sending troops back in and realizing his error like Biden is doing? Or would Trump simply be blaming Obama and doubling and tripling down on the withdraw while his supporters chanted America first fuck Afghanistan?
#rememberthekurds

You are right. My rant and raving was a bit much yesterday. Apologies to you…SS and punch

Thanks. My apologies to you too.