sdskinsfan2001
08-13-2021, 01:55 AM
We should have stayed in Afghanistan until 3021!
FFS, there was never going to be the "right" time to leave there. There for 20 years and the country folded in weeks.
They either don't care about their country or prefer the Taliban.
I'll likely never agree with Biden on anything else, but I like this choice. We aren't the world's babysitters.
mooby
08-13-2021, 09:48 AM
Ha…no. This is the Biden administration plan and executing strategy with his commanders. This is his direct leadership
This is another policy created humanitarian crisis just like at the southern border.
JFC…Biden’s direct policy decisions have caused both, period.
I thought we were all in agreement that we wanted an end to endless wars.
Well this is how it happens.
For the record I agree, despite the previous admin's shortcomings and complete lack of respect for the job the translators did, Biden should've come up with a plan to safely evacuate all of them. But at the same time, I'm glad they're doing something about it now.
mooby
08-13-2021, 09:50 AM
We should have stayed in Afghanistan until 3021!
FFS, there was never going to be the "right" time to leave there. There for 20 years and the country folded in weeks.
They either don't care about their country or prefer the Taliban.
I'll likely never agree with Biden on anything else, but I like this choice. We aren't the world's babysitters.
I partly agree, at some point the non-Taliban Afghanis had to know we were going to leave and they should've prepared accordingly.
It's just not feasible to keep wasting lives and money over there with no end in sight.
Sucks for those that don't want to live under Taliban rule. Hopefully we can save as many of the translators and families as possible.
Giantone
08-13-2021, 09:54 AM
We should have stayed in Afghanistan until 3021!
FFS, there was never going to be the "right" time to leave there. There for 20 years and the country folded in weeks.
They either don't care about their country or prefer the Taliban.
I'll likely never agree with Biden on anything else, but I like this choice. We aren't the world's babysitters.
20years??? We've been there since 1980 helping them fight the Russians then the Taliban.
Giantone
08-13-2021, 10:03 AM
Trump brought stability to the Middle East, as soon as the buffoon Biden took office it’s been back to normal…a complete shit show.
And Trump did wipe out ISIS…jeez man. Look at the IsIs land map pre 2015 and post 2017. Trump crushed isis and killed Russian mercenaries on the battlefield.
Biden foreign policy is already failing ala Obama legacy
FFS???
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nonniey
08-13-2021, 10:19 AM
I thought we were all in agreement that we wanted an end to endless wars.
Well this is how it happens.
For the record I agree, despite the previous admin's shortcomings and complete lack of respect for the job the translators did, Biden should've come up with a plan to safely evacuate all of them. But at the same time, I'm glad they're doing something about it now.
All in agreement? No we weren't. Under Obama, the decision was made to use Special Forces and a limited presence to deny the Taliban control of Afghanistan . This worked - we got to the point were costs and more importantly the casualties were low (to the point where fewer were dying or being injured than in normal training). Biden decided to go with the Trump plan.
America forgot what we went there in the first place for. (If you have one of those 9/11 never forget bumper stickers on your car tear it off). https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/potential-al-qaeda-resurgence-afghanistan-worries-u-s-officials-n1276614
nonniey
08-13-2021, 10:26 AM
FFS???
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmjinK05ANPydT42QzL1AvNKMaHA4CT Y3zfQ&usqp=CAU
Trump did have significant success when it came to Israel and a little bit more success in Iraq than Obama (which is not saying much) but he screwed up badly in Syria and was planning on making the same screw up Biden did in Afghanistan.
Chico23231
08-13-2021, 10:39 AM
I thought we were all in agreement that we wanted an end to endless wars.
Well this is how it happens.
For the record I agree, despite the previous admin's shortcomings and complete lack of respect for the job the translators did, Biden should've come up with a plan to safely evacuate all of them. But at the same time, I'm glad they're doing something about it now.
No…it doesn’t end with genocide and a humanitarian crisis. This has nothing to do with Trump. You honestly think is about translators
Biden solely owns this disaster.
mooby
08-13-2021, 11:43 AM
No…it doesn’t end with genocide and a humanitarian crisis. This has nothing to do with Trump. You honestly think is about translators
Biden solely owns this disaster.
I just can't.
I have too much respect for this forum to tell you how little respect I have for you right now.
mooby
08-13-2021, 11:44 AM
All in agreement? No we weren't. Under Obama, the decision was made to use Special Forces and a limited presence to deny the Taliban control of Afghanistan . This worked - we got to the point were costs and more importantly the casualties were low (to the point where fewer were dying or being injured than in normal training). Biden decided to go with the Trump plan.
America forgot what we went there in the first place for. (If you have one of those 9/11 never forget bumper stickers on your car tear it off). https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/potential-al-qaeda-resurgence-afghanistan-worries-u-s-officials-n1276614
Cool. I concede that argument, and raise the other argument that the majority of Americans (that's 51% or over if you need numbers) are in agreement that we can't keep wasting money and American lives in Aghanistan.