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Alvin Walton
05-23-2017, 12:55 PM
Trump isnt a politician and he wasnt hired because he was one.
So he isnt going to speak like one.
And he can call them milk toast poo poo heads for all I care as long as he finds a way to kill them.
At least hes not dismissing them like the last guy did.

Chico23231
05-23-2017, 01:08 PM
Yeah, that was clearly a fuck up on Obama's part, clearly they underestimated ISIS at the start and now they're paying the price for it. But it's not like they didn't have other issues to worry about, remember that whole "dig the country out of the recession" thing that was a large issue at the time?

Weak. So too much going on to protect the country and allies from the terrorist group that is re-writing the book on global jihad?

Come'on man.

davy
05-23-2017, 01:49 PM
Yup. I don't understand why security isn't beefed up everywhere for any type of mass gathering, shit FedEx won't even let you bring an umbrella in, and you gotta have your bag searched and pass the wand test to get in. Yet over there they aren't even checking bags? Feel bad for those families that were exposed to that shit last night.

Also, AW, I agree with Matty. Calling them evil losers is a weak ass response by the leader of the free world, he used harsher language to defend his Muslim ban.

Ignorant and retarded comment, if you don't know what you are talking about please STFU!

Alvin Walton
05-23-2017, 02:02 PM
From what I read the blast took place outside of the security zone but was in the building.
My local arena for example has a large foyer area with concessions, ticket sales and an assembly area that is a public area. You dont need tickets at this point so you dont go thru any security. I assume that it was similar to Manchester.
Its going to get to the point where will will have to rope off the whole city block to stop these kind of bombings.

mooby
05-23-2017, 03:57 PM
Weak. So too much going on to protect the country and allies from the terrorist group that is re-writing the book on global jihad?

Come'on man.

I was more referring to 2008-2010ish, when ISIS was still a relatively unknown thing, and the shitshow that was our economy was priority A. IIRC the comments about ISIS being a JV squad were made after that but I already said that's a fuckup on Obama's part, so I'm not sure what more you are looking for.

And can we please not act like being president of the most powerful country on Earth is not a full time job and then some? Idc who is President, Trump or Obama, there is a reason Obama's days were planned down to the minute. Trump seems more like a "I'm gonna wing it" kinda guy but point is, it's not like Obama was relaxing and some staffer was like "hey maybe you should check out this whole ISIS thing" and he was like, "ehhh I'll get to it when I get to it."

mooby
05-23-2017, 04:03 PM
Ignorant and retarded comment, if you don't know what you are talking about please STFU!

Fuck off. Clearly I don't know much about the layout of this particular building, so rather than being an asshole why don't you enlighten me?

Yes, I just read the article that said there is a train station connected to the building that can't be secured and that's where it happened so whatever. The article also mentioned that bags were being checked at the concert, but again, there is an unsecured train station in the building where it is impossible to maintain a constant security presence. The beauty of the internet is that as new details get released, you are able to get an idea of the bigger picture.

I assume if you're a local to the area, you knew all that already and just decided to be an asshole anyways. Forgive me for not knowing the exact circumstances of the situation, dick.

Giantone
05-23-2017, 04:05 PM
Trump isnt a politician and he wasnt hired because he was one.
So he isnt going to speak like one.
And he can call them milk toast poo poo heads for all I care as long as he finds a way to kill them.
At least hes not dismissing them like the last guy did.


This is BS and you know it.

mooby
05-23-2017, 04:07 PM
From what I read the blast took place outside of the security zone but was in the building.
My local arena for example has a large foyer area with concessions, ticket sales and an assembly area that is a public area. You dont need tickets at this point so you dont go thru any security. I assume that it was similar to Manchester.
Its going to get to the point where will will have to rope off the whole city block to stop these kind of bombings.

I'm not sure there's any solution that doesn't invade people's privacy. I doubt anyone that uses the train station likes the idea of their bags being checked during major public events. Just a shit situation all around.

mooby
05-23-2017, 04:08 PM
Trump isnt a politician and he wasnt hired because he was one.
So he isnt going to speak like one.
And he can call them milk toast poo poo heads for all I care as long as he finds a way to kill them.
At least hes not dismissing them like the last guy did.

If you're going to make outlandish statements at least back them up. Sources please.

Giantone
05-23-2017, 04:09 PM
Ignorant and retarded comment, if you don't know what you are talking about please STFU!


I realize you might be upset with the situation being it happen in Manchester but this is a website where people discuss and disagree on all sorts of things .Calm down and discuss.

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