All things Middle East related


That Guy
04-17-2016, 08:37 PM
if we strip their countries sovereign immunity, does that mean families of civilians killed by US troops or the innocent people we've tortured can turn around and sue us?

because it seems like that's where that kind of precedent would lead. it's not just the saudis who think this might be a bad idea.

Chico23231
05-04-2016, 12:31 PM
Clapper: ISIS can stage Europe-style attacks in U.S. - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/middleeast/obama-clapper-isis-attack-u-s-soil/index.html)

Well ISIS have already have "inspired" 3 attacks. Islamic Terrorists have already committed multiple lone wolf operations here and in Canada.

So now, the administration is admitting we are vulnerable to a direct isis attack. That's quite an admission, but really no surprise. Obama and his administration have left the country and the world in a much more unsafe place.

JoeRedskin
05-04-2016, 02:04 PM
... and Hilary will continue increasing the hazard.

Chico23231
05-04-2016, 02:13 PM
... and Hilary will continue increasing the hazard.

well considering she was apart of the administration that put us in this position, its highly likely.

Remember, when she was given her first major job in her career as Secretary of State she had 2 major failures in a short time:

Bengahzi where she ignored requests to protect Americans, putting them in harms ways

And

Was negligent in the handling of highly classified information


If this was my organization or another major corporation, her fat ass would be on the streets effectively fired.

Good nuff for government work folks. This is her record in a major leadership position...a major clusterfuck

That Guy
05-04-2016, 02:23 PM
you say obama, but you should be saying obama/bush, at the very least. isis is on the decline though, recruiting is down by over 80% over last year, and their money is drying up, leading to a lot of awol soldiers.

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and hillary is an interventionist, so in all likelyhood, yes, she will meddle in places against good advice. better than trump, but she'll (probably) continue our 16 year tradition of terrible foreign policy decisions.

HailGreen28
05-07-2016, 11:04 PM
you say obama, but you should be saying obama/bush, at the very least. isis is on the decline though, recruiting is down by over 80% over last year, and their money is drying up, leading to a lot of awol soldiers.

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and hillary is an interventionist, so in all likelyhood, yes, she will meddle in places against good advice. better than trump, but she'll (probably) continue our 16 year tradition of terrible foreign policy decisions.For god's sake, its been almost eight years since Bush II was president. It's pathetic how much criticism of Obama, especially on his second term, is deflected by throwing Bush in the discussion. So when the next prez is elected, is Bush still gonna be held just as accountable?

That Guy
05-08-2016, 07:43 AM
For god's sake, its been almost eight years since Bush II was president. It's pathetic how much criticism of Obama, especially on his second term, is deflected by throwing Bush in the discussion. So when the next prez is elected, is Bush still gonna be held just as accountable?

yes, he invaded a country under false pretenses and got 180k+ people killed, so he will always be accountable for that... that's how accountability works. if you think i'm deflecting blame from obama, you're really not paying attention.

Chico23231
05-09-2016, 09:02 AM
Yeah, Obama took a bad situation and made it much worse. Ashame he's leaving the country in a much worse position internationally since Jimmy Carter.

CRedskinsRule
05-09-2016, 06:22 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-defence-intercepts-ballistic-missile-fired-yemen-coalition-171416200.html

Ok, so just to clarify the situation.

Yemen is firing ballistic missiles at Saudi Arabia.
Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia, and Iran all have troops in harms way in Syria.
We have boarded Iranian vessels checking for weapons.
Iran has detained our sailors.
Europe has had multiple bomb attacks.


GOOD EFFING THING WE AREN'T AT WAR

That Guy
05-10-2016, 05:13 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-defence-intercepts-ballistic-missile-fired-yemen-coalition-171416200.html

Ok, so just to clarify the situation.

Yemen is firing ballistic missiles at Saudi Arabia.
Russia, the US, Saudi Arabia, and Iran all have troops in harms way in Syria.
We have boarded Iranian vessels checking for weapons.
Iran has detained our sailors.
Europe has had multiple bomb attacks.


GOOD EFFING THING WE AREN'T AT WAR

well, we are at war though. the millitary is still issuing global war on terror service pins. obama stopped calling it that in 2013, but it never actually ended. we're 4 months away from 15 years of continuous war.

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