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over the mountain
02-18-2016, 04:10 PM
Are U.S. Missiles Taking Out High-Ranking Russian Military Officials? - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/05/are-u-s-missiles-taking-out-high-ranking-russian-military-officials.html)

proxy war may very well be in full effect. what a wonderful world. i feel so bad for all the millions of families now displaced .. or dead .. or forever separated to never see each other again. i dont feel bad for the 20 and 30 something males who didnt stay and are now claiming amnesty in germany, etc. stay and fight for your country.

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Emotional scenes unfolded at the Baghdad International Airport on Thursday as dozens of Iraqis who had sought refuge in Europe returned home.

More than a hundred Iraqis, mostly young men, landed in Baghdad on a flight from Finland.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dozens-iraqi-migrants-return-home-europe-141557049.html
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fucking pussies.

Chico23231
03-11-2016, 11:26 AM
Anybody care that ISIS is using Chlorine and Mustard Gas against multiple cities within Iraq?

Our president let this happen. Let genocide happen. Remember that folks, remember it.

He was up in arms when Assad did it...haven't heard a word from that pussy in the white house about these attacks.

That Guy
03-11-2016, 02:13 PM
isis is a problem that is both bush and obama's fault. the problem is american's don't give a hist about foreign policy, so there's no real accountability or or push for spending a lot of effort there, and 90% of presidents come in with 0 foreign policy experience (being governors or senators). no one really votes for candidates foreign policy beyond stupidity like "we're going to build a wall."

what's your answer though? bomb them? cause we're already doing that. spend money fighting them? we're already committing billions to arm the shia fundamentalist militias and security forces fighting them (who also do bad things like torture, beheadings, etc). are you just asking for a press release?

it's not like america ignoring genocide is anything new either. when it happens in africa, the UN tries very very hard to classify it as anything else that's not genocide, cause once it's labelled as genocide, they'd be forced to do something about it.

not trying to be cynical, but either we're the world police or we're not. a lot of times when we go in to fix something, someone doesn't have the regional experience, makes a few really bad decisions, and actively makes things worse.

Chico23231
03-11-2016, 02:33 PM
isis is a problem that is both bush and obama's fault. the problem is american's don't give a hist about foreign policy, so there's no real accountability or or push for spending a lot of effort there, and 90% of presidents come in with 0 foreign policy experience (being governors or senators). no one really votes for candidates foreign policy beyond stupidity like "we're going to build a wall."

what's your answer though? bomb them? cause we're already doing that. spend money fighting them? we're already committing billions to arm the shia fundamentalist militias and security forces fighting them (who also do bad things like torture, beheadings, etc). are you just asking for a press release?

it's not like america ignoring genocide is anything new either. when it happens in africa, the UN tries very very hard to classify it as anything else that's not genocide, cause once it's labelled as genocide, they'd be forced to do something about it.

not trying to be cynical, but either we're the world police or we're not. a lot of times when we go in to fix something, someone doesn't have the regional experience, makes a few really bad decisions, and actively makes things worse.

No your right, Bill Clinton ignored it twice. And after Rwanda, he pledge the US would never let it happen again.

The liberal media has waged a campaign to avoid it.

The Bush blame is way old by now...but I expect that from liberals. ISIS is a President Obama problem. He completely fucked it up...certainly the biggest fuck up of his Presidency. Its getting better, but not before costing lives in attacks here in the US, Europe, and Beirut with terrorist attacks. But that's selfish. We should be thinking about the hundreds of thousands lives lost in Iraq and Syria. This happened in Iraq, where we have invested so much in.

The President has been an absolute disaster in foreign politics. The world is on fire...I guess we should just sit back and let it burn. So funny how the left has completely shifted. So f*ck everybody else now? pathetic, 2 face folks these days.

Lets see, Ukraine, Europe, Syria, Iraq, Israel hates Obama...they have zero respect. The fucking pathetic Iranian deal.

Cuba has already told the President we aint changing for shit. Because they don't have respect for him. So we gain nothing and Cuba's ruling class will gain access to everything.

The President is a weak ass bitch....but you can dress it up anyway you like. Go ahead and rationalize it.

That Guy
03-11-2016, 07:04 PM
its not a partisan problem, its a foreign policy problem. if bush hadn't invaded iraq, isis wouldn't exist. if bush hadn't fired the entire iraqi army, isis wouldn't exist, cause those people would have been gainfully employed. obama has blame to, i'm not saying he isn't, just that it's stupid to say this is 100% on obama, when he's not the reason we went there in the first place. ignoring iraq's constitution was a big mistake.

but what do you want to do? send troops en masse back into iraq? invade crimea and fight russia in a conventional war? what's the answer that we've all been missing?

Hog1
03-11-2016, 08:51 PM
No your right, Bill Clinton ignored it twice. And after Rwanda, he pledge the US would never let it happen again.

The liberal media has waged a campaign to avoid it.

The Bush blame is way old by now...but I expect that from liberals. ISIS is a President Obama problem. He completely fucked it up...certainly the biggest fuck up of his Presidency. Its getting better, but not before costing lives in attacks here in the US, Europe, and Beirut with terrorist attacks. But that's selfish. We should be thinking about the hundreds of thousands lives lost in Iraq and Syria. This happened in Iraq, where we have invested so much in.

The President has been an absolute disaster in foreign politics. The world is on fire...I guess we should just sit back and let it burn. So funny how the left has completely shifted. So f*ck everybody else now? pathetic, 2 face folks these days.

Lets see, Ukraine, Europe, Syria, Iraq, Israel hates Obama...they have zero respect. The fucking pathetic Iranian deal.

Cuba has already told the President we aint changing for shit. Because they don't have respect for him. So we gain nothing and Cuba's ruling class will gain access to everything.

The President is a weak ass bitch....but you can dress it up anyway you like. Go ahead and rationalize it.

The absurdity of that statement.....knows NO bounds sir!
It would seem an impossible task to determine given the....voluminous body of work.

Chico23231
03-22-2016, 07:45 AM
Radical Islamic Terrorists....when are leaders within their religions gonna admit they got a serious problem?

RobH4413
03-22-2016, 09:07 AM
Radical Islamic Terrorists....when are leaders within their religions gonna admit they got a serious problem?

Are you referencing anyone specifically?

Leaders within Islam have come out and spoke against radicalism and admitted major problems time and time again.

Muslim Leaders Vow To Protect Rights Of Religious Minorities : Parallels : NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/01/28/464688623/muslim-leaders-vow-to-protect-rights-of-religious-minorities)

Chico23231
03-22-2016, 09:26 AM
Are you referencing anyone specifically?

Leaders within Islam have come out and spoke against radicalism and admitted major problems time and time again.

Muslim Leaders Vow To Protect Rights Of Religious Minorities : Parallels : NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/01/28/464688623/muslim-leaders-vow-to-protect-rights-of-religious-minorities)

There needs to be a movement within the Islamic Religion of "no more". When you have Isis who has now claimed 70 attacks in 20 different countries, obviously more needs to be done and whats being done now isn't working. We are talking genocide now...the scope has moved from terrorism to genocide. Folks, that's a leap and its a world problem.

Id really like to sit down with the people in the community where the 13th paris attacker was just found in Belgium. He was born and raised there...and its obvious to reasonable folks that this guy was protected and hidden within his community. This is an example what is wrong.

over the mountain
03-22-2016, 02:43 PM
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