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I wonder if they used the weapons that Obama gave them to kill our own?

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http://i.qkme.me/3qxbgv.jpg

This is gut wrenching and truly upsetting. Once live fire is heard there's no such thing as a civilian...you fire at will and in all directions.

I agree with you fully on this.



Yea right....thats what got Blackwater in such deep sh1t.

First off, the Blackwater thing is totally different. Not even in the same ball park. Secondly, the US Embassy is American soil, and any attempt to breach that land is a act of aggression and it should be dealt with severely.

yeah, cause one idiot fires a gun, you have full authority to murder 2000 peaceful protestors (though these guys weren't exactly entirely peaceful).

Like I said above, the US embassy is American soil. It's no different if they landed on our beaches and started attacking random places. They needed to be put down swiftly and harshly. The peaceful protestors wouldn't be trying to breach the compound, they would be outside still protesting. For anybody trying to climb the walls, or enter the compound, it should be a shoot to kill type scenario. These are simple rules of engagement.


They have a movie about this VERY type of scenario that happened(breached embassy by armed crowd). It rightfully is called Rules of Engagement. Watch it.

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I wonder if they used the weapons that Obama gave them to kill our own?

um, unless i'm mistaken we didn't give them weapons. we gave them training/uniforms/food/medical aid, but not guns. the dudes in the pics i saw had ak's, so unless you have a link or something, i think you're sensationalizing and making a pointless/stupid dig at obama.

They have a movie about this VERY type of scenario that happened(breached embassy by armed crowd). It rightfully is called Rules of Engagement.



trust me, i understand RoE ;) I was just saying, we shouldn't be throwing around invasions of foreign countries like that should be our first response to every american death (unless those suggesting it are about to go enlist or are cool with being drafted and sent to the desert for the next 10-20 years). We had some very extreme reactionary suggestions in the thread that just weren't/aren't based in reality.

if you read my other post, based on embassy defense in africa, the best course is to snipe the leaders/heavy weapons and it tends to chill the crowd the %$^ out pretty quick. I heard reports they might not have even had live ammo though, and certainly not enough people to protect against the size of crowd that showed up.

trust me, i understand RoE ;) I was just saying, we shouldn't be throwing around invasions of foreign countries like that should be our first response to every american death (unless those suggesting it are about to go enlist or are cool with being drafted and sent to the desert for the next 10-20 years). We had some very extreme reactionary suggestions in the thread that just weren't/aren't based in reality.

if you read my other post, based on embassy defense in africa, the best course is to snipe the leaders/heavy weapons and it tends to chill the crowd the %$^ out pretty quick. I heard reports they might not have even had live ammo though, and certainly not enough people to protect against the size of crowd that showed up.


Correct. You don't invade a country because a band of insurgents raided your embassy. Had the Libyan government raided the compound, that would be a different story. I'm all for mounting heavy machine guns on the corners of the embassy buildings.


...or set up some motion detector machine guns in the courtyard like these.

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Also, this:


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pffftttt....we're not going to invade Libya over this, not even close.....

Jon Stewart Takes On Conservative Hypocrisy Over Middle Eastern Democracy (VIDEO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/jon-stewart-conservative-hypocrisy-middle-eastern-democracy-video_n_1892946.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)


Do these idiots really even listen to themselves? Foreign policies under Bush is good. The same foreign policies under Obama is bad. Morons.

Protester dies after inhaling fumes from burning American flag | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/18/protester-dies-after-inhaling-fumes-from-burning-american-flag/?intcmp=trending)

I generally don't like to laugh at people's deaths or misfortune's, but Ill make an exception in this guy's case. Darwin award candidate?

I wonder if they used the weapons that Obama gave them to kill our own?

Haha what? Source please. This is the biggest pile of bullshit ever.

Weapons came into Libya from neighboring nations.