All things Middle East related


That Guy
08-23-2015, 08:50 PM
State Department defends Iran nuclear deal inspections - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-inspections-parchin/)

i'm glad you read the headline, but please read the article.

Flyer97
08-24-2015, 09:49 PM
If Iran gets the bomb, all it will do is create a balance of power at the worst. Fellas, Israel now has 5 German Dolphin class nuclear attack subs, along with 89 nuclear warheads fitted on Popeye SSLMs. The Germans are building them #6 as we speak. Iran's air force is a joke. A majority of their jets are still Ford/Carter era F-4 phantoms, etc. Their best tank is a modified M-60 battle tank!!!!! Reagan started to phase them out and Desert Storm was the last hurrah for them as only our marines used them. These people only spend 1% of what we do on defense and small ass nations like the UAE totally outspend Iran. IN fact Iran has the lowest defense spending per capita in the entire Gulf Region. Do you really think Israel or we should be scared of these guys? Do you think for one moment that if we did find out that they were making a bomb that we or the Israelis would stand for it? China and Iran are making deals for the natural gas, etc. Messing around with Iran might be the equivalent of Germany, Russia, and the rest of the gang getting their panties all ruffled over an assassination in 1914 in Sarajevo, except in 2015 all the major players have nukes, with the exception of Iran that will be playing the role of poor Serbia.

Flyer97
08-24-2015, 09:57 PM
What could go wrong for us with this good news:

Iran, Russia reach agreement on delivery of S-300 missile systems - UPI.com (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/08/19/Iran-Russia-reach-agreement-on-delivery-of-S-300-missile-systems/7271440011429/?spt=slh&or=2)



I'm still trying to understand Pres. Obama's quote. He didn't think they would keep a ban in place because they were prohibited by sanctions, but hey, now that sanctions are gone, who needs the ban anyway?!?! WTF

Shouldn't we at least express disappointment that Russia didn't decide to keep the ban in place even though the sanctions are gone. And that adding that level and amount of air defense missiles only serves to hurt the regional balance?

Russia's top of the line air defense system is the S-500 and it is not being offered to Iran. Remember when Putin reneged on giving them the operational top of the line S-400? Also, what is wrong with Russia giving Iran the S-300s anyway? I mean Israel and the US and co have been threatening to bomb Iran even before 911 if I remember correctly. Only way our boys get whacked is if we go trying to whack them. I think they have a right to defend themselves against a potential moronic attack. Israel has nukes, and with those 5 operational Dolphin nuclear attack subs they have acquired from Germany, along with an estimated 89 warheads created for said subs, I think Israel can handle Iran just fine on their own. Iran is a major supplier of natural gas, etc to China. China and Russia aren't going to sit by and let their major partner and supplier get taken down for another pack of probable lies.

Flyer97
08-24-2015, 10:00 PM
Trolling? ......Hardly
Actually the response you quoted was meant as an explanation to CRedskins
You keep saying/.....What is Your Plan? This may come as a shock. I do not, am not paid to, expected to, or qualified to develop that plan......

I do know when my car is running bad even though I cannot fix it-have a mechanic!
I do know my roof is leaking even though I can't fix it-have a roofer
AND, I DO know when someones pissin' down my back and telling me it's raining.
The ridiculous agreements in this travesty are many....but the worst (Are you f..n kidding me) is putting the Iranians in charge of their own inspections WTF
***Do you not find it interesting that Obama failed to mention that? Probably just slipped his mind
That's right, the fox is in charge of the hen house. Is it any wonder that Trump says we get F...d by everybody in negotiations. Most specifically our CIC Barak Hussein O'bama. Wow what a coup Barry......
BTW I noticed you did not want to talk about the Iranians ability to choose their own inspectors. How's that work?
Death to all American's guy calls Death to all Israel guy to go over and check out the Nukes they are not building, not see anything and report back to the idiot American's. "Sorry Barry...didn't see anything bad here. You can trust us right. If you could not we would not be inspecting our own shit, right?
Take your head out of the sand
News from The Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-08-19-13-06-05)

AND just as an aside, what other....."deals" have been cut that are being kept from the American people??

THe AP story isn't the real deal, it has been outed as a forgery.

Hog1
08-26-2015, 01:04 PM
THe AP story isn't the real deal, it has been outed as a forgery.
sez............who?

Hog1
08-26-2015, 01:23 PM
State Department defends Iran nuclear deal inspections - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-inspections-parchin/)

i'm glad you read the headline, but please read the article.

I did, and I totally trust John Kerry........Ahahahahahaha


White House 'comfortable' with Iran 'self-inspecting' suspect nuke site | The Times of Israel (http://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-comfortable-with-iaea-deal-with-tehran-to-self-inspect-suspect-nuke-site/)

Copy of Iran ‘side deal’ backs reports Tehran would have major role in nuke site inspections | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/21/copy-iran-side-deal-backs-reports-iran-would-have-major-role-in-nuke-site/)

Report that nuclear deal authorizes Iran to inspect Parchin site defended by Obama's NSC - World Tribune | World Tribune (http://www.worldtribune.com/2015/08/20/report-that-nuclear-deal-authorizes-iran-to-inspect-parchin-site-defended-by-obamas-nsc/)

"Secretary of State John Kerry, among others in the administration, had previously stressed the importance of Iran disclosing past nuclear military activity as part of any deal".....
Apparently that not longer matters to Kerry

Iran’s Secret Self-Inspections - WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/irans-secret-self-inspections-1440026399)

"Three more Senators have declared against President Obama’s Iran nuclear deal in recent days, and don’t be surprised if more follow"

Though the International Atomic Energy Agency (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/i/international_atomic_energy_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org) says it will monitor the collection, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Ed Royce, declared: “International inspections should be done by international inspectors. Period.”
AND WHY WOULD THEY NOT BE?????
AND, they're are apparently other....secret side agreements...WTF
Secret side deals...are you kidding?

Hog1
08-26-2015, 01:44 PM
If Iran gets the bomb, all it will do is create a balance of power at the worst. Fellas, Israel now has 5 German Dolphin class nuclear attack subs, along with 89 nuclear warheads fitted on Popeye SSLMs. The Germans are building them #6 as we speak. Iran's air force is a joke. A majority of their jets are still Ford/Carter era F-4 phantoms, etc. Their best tank is a modified M-60 battle tank!!!!! Reagan started to phase them out and Desert Storm was the last hurrah for them as only our marines used them. These people only spend 1% of what we do on defense and small ass nations like the UAE totally outspend Iran. IN fact Iran has the lowest defense spending per capita in the entire Gulf Region. Do you really think Israel or we should be scared of these guys? Do you think for one moment that if we did find out that they were making a bomb that we or the Israelis would stand for it? China and Iran are making deals for the natural gas, etc. Messing around with Iran might be the equivalent of Germany, Russia, and the rest of the gang getting their panties all ruffled over an assassination in 1914 in Sarajevo, except in 2015 all the major players have nukes, with the exception of Iran that will be playing the role of poor Serbia.
Good common sense! So apply a little more.
Has nothing to do with fear. Giving Iran the....opportunity....ANY opportunity the could develop in Nuke production is a questionable if not bad plan. Allowing them to have any part if not the majority in the inspection process without oversight is absurd.
It has nothing to do with fear. I live in South Florida and spend a great deal of time outside in the Glades and surrounding buffer zones and wilderness area's. There are many animals that can take your life any time they please. I do not fear the Gators but as a matter of common sense, I would not F.. with one unnecessarily. OR give them the opportunity to F with me.
BTW, these are the same maniac that chant endlessly Death to all Americans....Israel.......the west(even in Parliament), use woman and children for suicide bombers........Behead people....just cuz'
Trying to suggest they will react and act like people with ideals such as we are accustomed.....doesn't work

That Guy
08-26-2015, 07:27 PM
lesson learned, all iranians are suicide bombers that want to behead you, because, why not?

Hog1
08-26-2015, 08:37 PM
Would you mind highlighting....any passage....anywhere......where I suggested....implied.....inferred, That All Iranians are anything?
BUT on the other hand, this country has been the largest sponsor of terrorism the world has ever known. These acts of atrocity and many more unspeakable things are condoned, encouraged and supported by the leadership of this country.
I should not need to point out that even in Barak's comments about the deal he divulges "well yes, some of the money will be used in terrorist activity" in sort of a boys will be boys flavor.....really?
Soooo, while in Parliament they chant Death to all Americans.....the West.....Israel and HEY still have four American hostages. We give them the ways and means to get it done.
I for one take them at their word....

That Guy
08-27-2015, 05:46 AM
if you repeat the same post 5 times, does it make it more true?

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