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anyone watch Netanyahu's speech?

a lot of rhetoric but no realistic solutions. he suggested we get a better deal out of Iran. Pretty sure we are working hard to get the best deal we can. No deal with Iran will appease Netanyahu's conservative hawk party.

very eerie moment when he said "israel will act alone" and he got a standing ovation.

Did republicans really just cheer on the idea that Israel should attack Iran and drag us unwillingly into WW3?

stop and think what you are cheering and encouraging.

US foreign policy should be dictated by a foreigner?
US foreign policy should be dictated and politicized by congress and not the POTUS?

republicans hate of pres Obama is blinding them.

Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-threatened-israeli-jets/2015/03/01/id/627575/)

^^ obama literally had to threaten to shoot down israel war planes if they tried to attack Iran without US consent.

netanyahu is dead set on dragging us into a war.


pardon my language but netanyahu needs to fuck off. he has been an asshole to every US president and openly mocks kerry. fuck you netanyahu.I keep wanting to reply to this drivel, and keep getting hung up on "WW3". Dude, stop drinking the kool-aid the Obama Administration and MSNBC keep giving you. World War 3 isn't happening because of anything involving Iran. You can stop hyperventilating trying to work up outrage against Isreal now.

Surprised nobody has talked about the Iran-Nuclear deal. I know the GOP and Netanyahu are pissed, but that's because they don't get to blow up any brown people on this deal.

I'll give the white house props on trolling Netanyahu as well with this tweet:



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People need to realize that it isn't just Obama that wanted this deal. Several other countries have agreed upon this too.

too bad iran's already hedging on whether they'll still agree to it in june. not sure if that's selling to their base or real backtracking.

Surprised nobody has talked about the Iran-Nuclear deal. I know the GOP and Netanyahu are pissed, but that's because they don't get to blow up any brown people on this deal.

I'll give the white house props on trolling Netanyahu as well with this tweet:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCF18IHW4AIqCC7.jpg:large



People need to realize that it isn't just Obama that wanted this deal. Several other countries have agreed upon this too.The deal is interesting. Worth a shot since so far the Iranians appear to be doing what they want anyways.

Just hope they don't keep being that way once the deal is signed. Correct me if wrong, but isn't a major fear that Iran will build up their infrastructure like a first world nuclear power more CAPABLE of making weapons on short notice, like Japan could do. So if there's any excuse Iran could break the treaty and produce weapons as quickly as if they had never stopped the development they are doing now?

The deal is interesting. Worth a shot since so far the Iranians appear to be doing what they want anyways.

Just hope they don't keep being that way once the deal is signed. Correct me if wrong, but isn't a major fear that Iran will build up their infrastructure like a first world nuclear power more CAPABLE of making weapons on short notice, like Japan could do. So if there's any excuse Iran could break the treaty and produce weapons as quickly as if they had never stopped the development they are doing now?

Well, seeing as they'll have inspectors crawling up their ass, I doubt this seriously. Even if this did happen, Iran knows it would end up in the deal being nullified and military strikes happening. Iran is doing this so it can kick start it's economy. This alone is why Israel wants to stop Iran. It isn't about nuclear weapons because his own Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran's capability. Netanyahu (and Saudi Arabia)doesn't want Iran becoming a economic force in the region. This is what this has been about the entire time. Economics.

Well, seeing as they'll have inspectors crawling up their ass, I doubt this seriously. Even if this did happen, Iran knows it would end up in the deal being nullified and military strikes happening. Iran is doing this so it can kick start it's economy. This alone is why Israel wants to stop Iran. It isn't about nuclear weapons because his own Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran's capability. Netanyahu (and Saudi Arabia)doesn't want Iran becoming a economic force in the region. This is what this has been about the entire time. Economics.I would think if it were about economics, sanctions would have driven Iran to agree to dismantle their nuke program, to haul stuff off like Libya rather than just put it in storage.

I heard energy production for Iran would be helped a lot by nuke plants, but they could just build more refineries for that.

Well, seeing as they'll have inspectors crawling up their ass, I doubt this seriously. Even if this did happen, Iran knows it would end up in the deal being nullified and military strikes happening. Iran is doing this so it can kick start it's economy. This alone is why Israel wants to stop Iran. It isn't about nuclear weapons because his own Mossad contradicted Netanyahu on Iran's capability. Netanyahu (and Saudi Arabia)doesn't want Iran becoming a economic force in the region. This is what this has been about the entire time. Economics.
UN inspectors crawling up a closed society's ass...

Iran knows what would happen if the did produce a bomb...

Pretty funny stuff.
The outline of the outline of what might be agreed to already gives Iran the ability to put places off limits to inspectors so you can bet any ratifiable treaty will have at least some loopholes that Iran will take advantage of.

Iran knows what North Korea, Israel, Pakistan and India know, which is if they produce nuclear bombs no country is going to make them give it back.

All that said Iran doesn't want war with us, just like China and Russia don't, what they eachdo want is to control their region(s), and if we get in the way of that then they may decide to see exactly how much we are willing to give up to maintain influence.

Personally, Pres. Obama comes off much like Neville Chamberlain before WWII, or Wilson after WWI. So intent on denying other countries real political and cultural natures, in order to be seen as bringing peace to the globe, that they sign bad/dumb treaties and leave the world a more unstable place.



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UN inspectors crawling up a closed society's ass...

Iran knows what would happen if the did produce a bomb...

Pretty funny stuff.
The outline of the outline of what might be agreed to already gives Iran the ability to put places off limits to inspectors so you can bet any ratifiable treaty will have at least some loopholes that Iran will take advantage of.

Iran knows what North Korea, Israel, Pakistan and India know, which is if they produce nuclear bombs no country is going to make them give it back.

All that said Iran doesn't want war with us, just like China and Russia don't, what they eachdo want is to control their region(s), and if we get in the way of that then they may decide to see exactly how much we are willing to give up to maintain influence.

Personally, Pres. Obama comes off much like Neville Chamberlain before WWII, or Wilson after WWI. So intent on denying other countries real political and cultural natures, in order to be seen as bringing peace to the globe, that they sign bad/dumb treaties and leave the world a more unstable place.



Sent from my S6 EdgeWell I'm thinking that Iran sees that giving up nukes didn't work out well for the leaders of Ukraine and Libya. Course if the Iranians do care about economics, maybe tough enough sanctions to turn them into North Korea would be a deterrent? It would be nice to get agreement from the EU and Russia to do that if needed, if this is an option.

I am shocked there is no more outrage over this....deal. I cannot figure any way Iran is not raining Nuc's on us and Israel at their first opportunity.
After all this is not the "Peace Loving Muslim" we are talking about. This is the American beheading, hostage taking, Death to all Iraeli's...Death to all Americans we are talking about.
Oh...I forgot, Worlds foremost sponsor of terrorism....Peace Loving Muslims.
And we are going to arm them with 150 Billion in sanction relief (which is probably the only reason they are at the bargaining table at all)
Iran Inspections in 24 Days? Not Even Close - WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-inspections-in-24-days-not-even-close-1437521911)
Oh and Inspectors up their ass??? Maybe after 6 months of BS delays or so in which time they will have had plenty of time to hide the whole F...n country.
Appears to be ....quite the Coup
No worries they have always proven to be a trustworthy partner....right?

I am shocked there is no more outrage over this....deal. I cannot figure any way Iran is not raining Nuc's on us and Israel at their first opportunity.
After all this is not the "Peace Loving Muslim" we are talking about. This is the American beheading, hostage taking, Death to all Iraeli's...Death to all Americans we are talking about.
Oh...I forgot, Worlds foremost sponsor of terrorism....Peace Loving Muslims.
And we are going to arm them with 150 Billion in sanction relief (which is probably the only reason they are at the bargaining table at all)
Iran Inspections in 24 Days? Not Even Close - WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-inspections-in-24-days-not-even-close-1437521911)
Oh and Inspectors up their ass??? Maybe after 6 months of BS delays or so in which time they will have had plenty of time to hide the whole F...n country.
Appears to be ....quite the Coup
No worries they have always proven to be a trustworthy partner....right?

what's your solution then? nuke them first? the cold war ended without causing the end of the world, cause people decided that talking was better than nuclear holocaust. and honestly it could have ended quite a bit sooner. hap (arnold, USAF) was calling for pre-emptive nuclear war the whole time... i'm glad we decided not to go down that path.

maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but disengagement rarely yeilds good results in the long run. their leadership is not stupid and is a generally rational actor, even though their aims don't really match up with ours very often. (ie, they know launching nukes without testing at a country with interception capabilities is probably a bad idea).

we were the ones that destroyed their democracy and installed a puppet government that had a pretty terrible human rights record (which is a big part of why it was overthrown). so the argument that they'll bomb us is kind of glass house thinking (though they're definitely acted against us with militias/training in iraq etc). the best deterrent is using isreali/saudi arabia as watch dogs and missile shield sites, since they aren't very hip to iran in any way.

israel does have a legitimate concern though, since they'd be in close range.