All things Middle East related


12thMan
09-12-2012, 12:34 PM
As odd as it seems, we're probably better off having some US presence in these hot spots than nothing at all.

firstdown
09-12-2012, 01:08 PM
As odd as it seems, we're probably better off having some US presence in these hot spots than nothing at all.

He thought the same thing.

"The reopening of our consular section will create new opportunities for deepening the ties between our two countries," the newspaper quoted him as saying. "Relationships between governments are important, but relationships between people are the real foundation of mutual understanding," Stevens said.

Chico23231
09-12-2012, 01:52 PM
Pro-al Qaeda group seen behind deadly Benghazi attack - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-attack-jihadists/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)

would not surprise if al qaeda is behind it. on sept. 11th too? Believe me, these guys are being hunted today. People will pay.

saden1
09-12-2012, 02:22 PM
Our ambassador to Libya is dead.

CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News (http://www.cnn.com/)

All over an obscure film on YouTube???? That may be what the leadership used to fire up the protestors, but there is no coincidence this was on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, with coordinated attacks in Egypt and Libya.

I'm not saying invade Egypt and Libya.....however there needs to be a devastating response to the groups that organized this, and not a month from now either.

This is gut wrenching and truly upsetting. Once live fire is heard there's no such thing as a civilian...you fire at will and in all directions.

Alvin Walton
09-12-2012, 03:13 PM
This is gut wrenching and truly upsetting. Once live fire is heard there's no such thing as a civilian...you fire at will and in all directions.

Yea right....thats what got Blackwater in such deep sh1t.

That Guy
09-12-2012, 06:24 PM
yeah, cause one idiot fires a gun, you have full authority to murder 2000 peaceful protestors (though these guys weren't exactly entirely peaceful).

i'll remember that next time some wack job tries to shoot up a school.

"oh, shots fired - let's just bring in some tanks and blow the entire building apart. those people stuck inside aren't students anymore, they're the enemy"


i'm just glad some of the people in this thread aren't in charge of response teams. you guys are scary and/or crazy and/or not really thinking about what you're suggesting.

saden1
09-12-2012, 06:59 PM
yeah, cause one idiot fires a gun, you have full authority to murder 2000 peaceful protestors (though these guys weren't exactly entirely peaceful).

i'll remember that next time some wack job tries to shoot up a school.

"oh, shots fired - let's just bring in some tanks and blow the entire building apart. those people stuck inside aren't students anymore, they're the enemy"


i'm just glad some of the people in this thread aren't in charge of response teams. you guys are scary and/or crazy and/or not really thinking about what you're suggesting.


Peaceful? This is a hostile crowd attacking the embassy. You should fire warning shots up in the air and if that doesn't get them to scramble you shoot them in the face. I'm confident this is probably what happened but there was just too many of them.


...and this is coming from someone who has been deemed a liberal on this forum.

As for the stupid comparison to Blackwater, there is no moral equivalence (http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/10/05/us-iraq-contractors-report-idUSN0439965120071005).

Slingin Sammy 33
09-12-2012, 07:23 PM
Peaceful? This is a hostile crowd attacking the embassy. You should fire warning shots up in the air and if that doesn't get them to scramble you shoot them in the face. I'm confident this is probably what happened but there was just too many of them.


...and this is coming from someone who has been deemed a liberal on this forum.

As for the stupid comparison to Blackwater, there is no moral equivalence (http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/10/05/us-iraq-contractors-report-idUSN0439965120071005).saden and I don't agree on a lot politically, but I'm certainly in line with his Rules of Engagement.

This was a coordinated attack with insider support (at least it appears so in Libya). Response must be to devastate the groups that coordinated these attacks...wherever they are. If the host country does not support our tactical response.....and/or decide to get in the way....they go down too.

These violent extremists only understand force....nothing else.

Alvin Walton
09-12-2012, 08:22 PM
LOL...you guys crack me up.
Its been widely reported that Al Qaeda was responsible for this.
Not the civilian mob that was on the scene.
We've been drooping drone poop on them for a long time and will continue to do so.

"They go down too" .....lol

Slingin Sammy 33
09-12-2012, 08:47 PM
LOL...you guys crack me up.
Its been widely reported that Al Qaeda was responsible for this.
Not the civilian mob that was on the scene.
We've been drooping drone poop on them for a long time and will continue to do so.

"They go down too" .....lolYou understand that there appear to be (at best case) terrorist sympathizers in Libya's security forces that gave away the position of our Ambassador.

Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57511043/u.s-officials-deadly-libya-attack-likely-planned/)

You are extremely naive if you don't think there's a strong chance there are (again at best case) factions within the Libyan and Egyptian gov't that support these attacks. If we identify the terrorist groups within Libya/Egypt and where to attack....and the Libyan and/or Egyptian gov'ts won't allow us clearance or wind up notifying the terrorists of our plans....then absolutely we strike at their military infrastructure and claim a "stray missle" or something to that effect.

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