All things Middle East related


BigHairedAristocrat
04-05-2013, 03:22 PM
I think we do get outraged here, but the point is, its culturely acceptable in the Middle East. Its clearly not here.

But like I said before, violence against women is actually a small part of equality rights of women over there. Violence is the end result, kinda like my article. There was an honor attempted killing only because the woman had no choice or say in the matter of who she could be with.

Thats a false, ignorant, and racist statement.

wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

No, you are wrong. You mistakenly are equating women's civil rights with tolerance of violence against women. No one questions that women have far less civil rights in middle eastern countries. But those same countries have laws which consider attacks on women to be criminal.

On the flip side, women have equal civil rights with men in the US, but that doesnt make them any safer from domestic violence. Men mistreating women is a universal problem. There are small communities all over the world where men can essentially do what they want to women with impunity, but those pockets are not representative of the society as a whole.

Alvin Walton
04-05-2013, 03:57 PM
If its culturaly acceptable there then their culture sucks boils on a red baboons ass.
They are medieval thinking dirtbags.

BigHairedAristocrat
04-05-2013, 04:35 PM
If its culturaly acceptable there then their culture sucks boils on a red baboons ass.
They are medieval thinking dirtbags.

For the very small tribal pockets of Afghanistan that are ruled by religious extremists, you are right. But that culture is not representative of the majority of Afghanistan or the middle east. Chico's comments reflect ignorance at best.

RedskinRat
04-05-2013, 05:22 PM
For the very small tribal pockets of Afghanistan that are ruled by religious extremists, you are right. But that culture is not representative of the majority of Afghanistan or the middle east. Chico's comments reflect ignorance at best.

Your opinion or a fact? Please post something to substantiate this assertion.

How familiar are you with FGM? It's eerily connected with a particular culture/religion and practiced by their adherents when they emigrate to other countries. If that's not violence against women, I don't know what it is.

FGM FACT SHEET (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/index.html)

Not so common in the misogynistic (according to you) US.

Chico23231
04-05-2013, 06:42 PM
An example of equal rights and violence against women in Egypt from the political party that put Morsi in power:

In response to a proposed United Nations declaration to condemn violence against women, the Brotherhood issued a statement asserting that wives should not have the right to file legal complaints against their husbands for rape, that daughters should not have the same inheritance rights as sons, and that the husband must have "guardianship" over his wife, recommending the "husband's consent in matters like travel, work or use of contraception."

Obviously this is not an minority but a strong political party whose candidate now leads one of the largest Islamic countries in the world.

And to call someone a racist is a bit much

RedskinRat
04-05-2013, 06:54 PM
And to call someone a racist is a bit much

First gambit of someone with no real argument.

Alvin Walton
04-05-2013, 10:19 PM
For the very small tribal pockets of Afghanistan that are ruled by religious extremists, you are right. But that culture is not representative of the majority of Afghanistan or the middle east. Chico's comments reflect ignorance at best.

Saudi Arabian women risk arrest and flogging if they are caught driving an automobile.
Women in Iran have been imprisoned because they were caught riding dirt bikes.
That/they/them is one fecked up culture en masse.

BigHairedAristocrat
04-08-2013, 09:41 AM
Your opinion or a fact? Please post something to substantiate this assertion.

How familiar are you with FGM? It's eerily connected with a particular culture/religion and practiced by their adherents when they emigrate to other countries. If that's not violence against women, I don't know what it is.

FGM FACT SHEET (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/index.html)

Not so common in the misogynistic (according to you) US.

I have posted facts... a whole bunch of them in my previous post. I dont understand how you keep telling me to post something to substantiate my assertation WHEN I ALREADY HAVE. Go back to the previous page.

FGM is exceedingly rare and is viewed as horrific by the vast majority of Muslims. Your trying to racistly assert that the majority muslims/middle eastern culture supports this practice is like saying the majority of American Christians support going to funerals of soldiers with signs that say "God hates fags" because a few extremists do that.

RedskinRat
04-08-2013, 10:42 AM
Your trying to racistly assert .<SNIP>

Racist? And which 'Race' is islam/moslem?

Once you get that figured out, please come back and I'll set to straight on some other bigoted notions you're stuck on.

Bye!

Alvin Walton
04-08-2013, 11:00 AM
"Racist" is such an awesomely demonized word it works well on many levels.

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