My evaluation of Shanahan starts now

The last two drafts have been B's. Now those B's can also turn into A's over the course of a season or two. But right now, I think he has brought fukking sanity back to drafting here in DC. Thank god.

Well, can't have an evaluation without a draft history. (shamelessly copied off wiki - LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins_draft_history)) Even though it's too early to conclusively judge even the 2010 draft, here it is.


2010 Draft
Rd Pick Overall Name Position College
1 4 4 Trent Williams OT Oklahoma
4 5 103 Perry Riley LB Louisiana State
6 5 174 Dennis Morris TE Louisiana Tech
7 12 219 Terrence Austin WR UCLA
7 22 229 Erik Cook G New Mexico
7 24 231 Selvish Capers OT West Virginia

2011 Draft
Round Pick Overall Name Position College
1 16 16 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
2 9 41 Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson
3 15 79 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
4 8 105 Roy Helu RB Nebraska
5 15 146 DeJon Gomes S Nebraska
5 24 155 Niles Paul WR Nebraska
6 12 177 Evan Royster RB Penn State
6 13 178 Aldrick Robinson WR Southern Methodist
7 10 213 Brandyn Thompson CB Boise State
7 14 217 Maurice Hurt OT Florida
7 21 224 Markus White DE Florida State
7 50 253 Chris Neild DT West Virginia

2012 Draft
Round Pick Overall Name Position College
1 2 2 Robert Griffin III QB Baylor
3 8 71 Josh LeRibeus OG Southern Methodist
4 7 102 Kirk Cousins QB Mich St
4 24 119 Keenan Robinson ILB Texas
5 6 141 Adam Gettis OG Iowa
6 3 173 Alfred Morris RB FAU
6 23 193 Tom Compton OT South Dakota
7 6 213 Richard Crawford CB Southern Methodist
7 10 217 Jordan Bernstine S Iowa

Thoughts? Anybody want to grade this so far?

out of 27 picks, 14 picks were 6th or 7th rounders. just saying

out of 27 picks, 14 picks were 6th or 7th rounders. just saying

Trading down trying to build depth. Could work out in the long run but all of the 6th and 7th rounders from 2010 have been cut, along with Markus White from 2011. Also, Nield (2011) might have been cut if he hadn't gone on IR.

6 starters so far, all the first rounders have pro bowl type potential, a little bit of upside elsewhere?

Solidly average, and trending a little bit upward (above average in 2011 and 2012 combined).Yeah. I really liked the 2011 draft. Neither Shanallen nor the previous regime seems to like 2nd-3rd rounders though, and I thought that was the "sweet" part of the draft. 1st round talent at much lower salaries. I don't know how true that is with the new rookie salary cap.

What in the name of hades are you talking about? Am I really unqualified to compare and contrast two teams over the last three years?

In regards to assessing NFL coaching fundamentals, yes, you're unqualified.

I've noted in a couple of threads that we have drafted the most number of players (21) in the league and the most OL (7) over the past 3 draftsAgreed with the other stuff you said. I keep seeing from lots of people that we drafted the most players over 3 drafts, only 21 guys, 7 picks a year. Seemed odd for that to be the most, so I looked at a couple other teams:

The past 3 drafts according to Pro-Football-Reference.com - Pro Football Statistics and History (http://www.pro-football-reference.com:)

Patriots - 28 (LINK (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/draft.htm))

Eagles - 33! (LINK (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/draft.htm))

Steelers - 26 (LINK (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/draft.htm))

Does our "21 players over 3 years" refer to players that survive their first training camp? The most players our franchise has drafted over a 3 year span? Considering the draft used to be 12 rounds deep probably not. Or is it a simple mistake?

Edit: Just counted my own list, lol. We've drafted 21 players the past two drafts, 27 total the past 3 drafts. Looking at those other teams now:

Edit 2: OK, over a two year span:

Patriots: 14
Eagles: 20
Steelers: 16
Redskins: 21

Edit 3: We had the most players drafted the past TWO drafts at 21. Vikings and Eagles each drafted 20. And more than one team drafted more than we did over the past three drafts.

No kidding, the first year Campbell was benched repeatedly for Gradkowski and only started due to injury, the second year he lucked into a couple wins while throwing for 150 yards and the usual one TD, while his running game did all the heavy lifting until he got injured NOT SLIDING (as usual) and was replaced by a mediocre Carson Palmer.Lol, right that's exactly how it happened.

No kidding, the first year Campbell was benched repeatedly for Gradkowski and only started due to injury, the second year he lucked into a couple wins while throwing for 150 yards and the usual one TD, while his running game did all the heavy lifting until he got injured NOT SLIDING (as usual) and was replaced by a mediocre Carson Palmer.

Very convincing post, I can tell you aren't bitter at all about Campbell and have no prejudices against him whatsoever that could potentially make me dismiss your opinion on the subject.

Very convincing post, I can tell you aren't bitter at all about Campbell and have no prejudices against him whatsoever that could potentially make me dismiss your opinion on the subject.

Wow defensive much? I'm not bitter at all it doesn't bother me that Campbell is clearly a backup and not a starter in the NFL. It apparently bothers you enough to get all huffy over an unkind description of a backup QB who is two years removed from the Skins... So who's the bitter one?

Dissmiss me all you want ultimately he didn't impress anyone (who matters) enough to get EVEN A SHOT at a starting job, in a league where Kevin Kolb versus John Skelton is a thing. If that's not telling enough; he went to Chicago where he's the backup to the QB who some fans thought wasn't worth trading Campbell for. Hows that for irony... Bitter irony for some I suspect?

I have a Question.... Who really cares about jc being a redskin anymore???