Coles refusing to rework contract

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offiss
02-23-2005, 03:56 PM
I want to disagree with you somewhat. Brunell was a mistake. Lav Coles (the asshole) was not a mistake. I dont think anyone can argue that he is a top talent. He simply does not get the ball in a position to do anything with it. He's tough, he's got good hands, he can block, his speed is above average right now, and his route running is average because of the toe injury. And we do pay him alot, but we can still use him if we cant get something for him. Releasing him for nothing but cap space is a bit of a joke to me.


Mistake for Coles is the wrong word it was a good signing at the time, obviously for a # of reason's it hasen't worked out but we have to now look to restructure our cap number's and it start's with Cole's, Brunell, and Samuel's, out of which Coles is the only player amoung them but between his toe and our offense it's time to strike a deal if he really want's out then he has to accomadate otherwise I will have to assume thing's are not as bad as he is making them out to be.

Gibb's should aproach Brunell and come to some kind of compromise, Brunell is just a thorn in the side at this point, my guess is just like Gibb's reluctance to pull him last year he's going to hang on to him to sometime down the road try to justify his signing.

Schneed10
02-23-2005, 03:58 PM
I think Coles has worked out great, personally. He had 1200 yards in his first year, and 90 catches last year. That's why I'm so shocked and upset to be losing him, he was producing. Even last year when the passing offense was terrible, he had a better than average year by NFL standards.

Monksdown
02-23-2005, 03:59 PM
I like the idea of making him honor his contract if he wont let us trade him.

SmootSmack
02-23-2005, 04:06 PM
Are there any financial incentives based on things like touchdowns, yards per catch, Pro Bowl selections, that Coles didn't get this year that he's frustrated about.

Could his frustration with the offense be attributed to him not having a chance to pocket more money?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
02-23-2005, 04:08 PM
I like the idea of making him honor his contract if he wont let us trade him.

I do too and according to the Post, he'll play if he isn't traded or cut.

redwagonskins
02-23-2005, 05:45 PM
What's with the idea of trading him to the Jets for Abraham? Just what we need, a malcontent who nurses an injury after being cleared to play and won't even participate in a PLAYOFF GAME!!!!! Say what you want about TO, he was out there in the SB just weeks after breaking his leg.

Beemnseven
02-23-2005, 06:03 PM
Well, well, well! Look who was right!

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?p=65466#post65466

Are you reading this Schneed? Hate to say 'I told you so' but. . .

monk81
02-23-2005, 09:09 PM
This little blurb in the Times should make us feel a little better



As for Coles, I don't understand what he's thinking. If he wants outta here so badly he's gonna have to work with the team on this. And that means giving up his bonus, there's just no way we can afford to take a $9M cap hit for him.

If we can't work a trade I'm starting to think we should just tell him to suck it up and honor his contract.

This is just ridiculous.

I agree Matty.......Coles has to make a decision:

1. Does he want to keep his precious bonus??? OR
2. Does he want to get traded???

He can't have BOTH..........

sportscurmudgeon
02-23-2005, 09:40 PM
monk91:

Oh, but he can have both but not at the same time. All he has to do is to stay here and keep his money in his pocket. Then his toe has to flare up just as training camp begins and not get better. (Do the names Barrow and Arrington ring any bells with you?) Then he goes into the next off-season with a big cap number staring the team in the face and a receiver with a sore - but well rested toe. And he says again next year that he wants out...

How much would he cost the Skins as a part time WR who maybe has to go on IR? See, he knows that number too and he knows that if he sits on that number, that will make Danny Boy's free agency whirlwind circus a lot more constrained than Danny Boy wants it to be.

BTW, Coles does not want to be traded; he wants to be released as an unrestricted free agent. It's the Skins that want to trade him and he says he won't give them any bonus money unless he's released. Maybe he doesn't trust Danny Boy to make a trade that he (Coles) will like. I wouldn't. And since all I have to do to keep collecting some heavy bread is to show up for a few meetings until training camp starts in July, I can tell them what I want and not settle for much of anything less than that.

monk81
02-23-2005, 10:02 PM
monk91:

Oh, but he can have both but not at the same time. All he has to do is to stay here and keep his money in his pocket. Then his toe has to flare up just as training camp begins and not get better. (Do the names Barrow and Arrington ring any bells with you?) Then he goes into the next off-season with a big cap number staring the team in the face and a receiver with a sore - but well rested toe. And he says again next year that he wants out...

How much would he cost the Skins as a part time WR who maybe has to go on IR? See, he knows that number too and he knows that if he sits on that number, that will make Danny Boy's free agency whirlwind circus a lot more constrained than Danny Boy wants it to be.

BTW, Coles does not want to be traded; he wants to be released as an unrestricted free agent. It's the Skins that want to trade him and he says he won't give them any bonus money unless he's released. Maybe he doesn't trust Danny Boy to make a trade that he (Coles) will like. I wouldn't. And since all I have to do to keep collecting some heavy bread is to show up for a few meetings until training camp starts in July, I can tell them what I want and not settle for much of anything less than that.

That was my mistake.....your correct, he does not want to be traded......he wants to be released. Yes he can play the IR game and he has the toe to do it. BUT if he sits on the bench and uses his toe as an excuse....won't it make teams gun shy about signing him since his that the toe is already a concern????

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