People Shot Outside Empire State Building

Another city where guns are illegal.

Yes. B/c in this situation, the cross-fire created by the additional guns would have killed off those who accidentally killed others by their cross-fire. If only guns had been legal in NYC, they probably could have generated enough lead to clear the area of all innocent bystanders and leaving only the lawful gunmen. :doh:

Sometimes, just sometimes, more guns are not the answer.

Yeah, the illegal guns argument doesn't hold much water to me when you can go across state lines and get one easily.

Yes. B/c in this situation, the cross-fire created by the additional guns would have killed off those who accidentally killed others by their cross-fire. If only guns had been legal in NYC, they probably could have generated enough lead to clear the area of all innocent bystanders and leaving only the lawful gunmen. :doh:

Sometimes, just sometimes, more guns are not the answer.

In this case, having a ban on guns did not stop this man from obtaining one and carrying it into his former place of employment and killing someone. All gun laws do is keep the honest man honest. Heck, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even own a gun.

I thought guns were ban in NYC.


no,....you're thinking big Gulps.(They can kill ya)

Here's the story on the Empire State Building shootings from yesterday. Not sure how many people were shot, but it sounds like some civilians were hit when the police were trying to take down Jeff Johnson.

NYT: Co-workers tell of office feud that led to NYC killings - US news - The New York Times - NBCNews.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48787526/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/)

You heard the police shot everyone?

Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

The fact no one else was killed is amazing. the video is scary, right outta a movie, just chaos. The po po were lucky crazy dude's gun jammed