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Lotus 08-01-2012, 11:20 AM Why would Massie be a better choice than Cousins if he couldn't contribute now?
Neither guy is going to contribute much right now, right? So to me the argument is a developmental one.
Down the road IMO (brilliant talent scout that I am :) ) I think Massie could develop into a very good starter at RT. AT worst he could provide quality depth. We could muddle through this year at RT but have Massie ready to start next year. In this scenario RT, in the long term, is solved.
Cousins to me was way too mistake-prone at MSU and I think he will continue to be mistake-prone as a pro. Others disagree but I personally (again with my seasoned brilliance) don't see Cousins ever developing into even a quality backup. This is why I say that the idea to have two young QB's is smart but IMO Cousins is not the second man.
Since Cousins is on our team I hope that he makes me eat huge helpings of crow but I am of little faith right now.
RGIII 08-01-2012, 11:25 AM Keep in mind that the question marks along the OLs and DBs are about injuries, not the lack of depth (numbers).
30gut 08-01-2012, 11:25 AM That said, Massie would not be ready to start now, so he would not be a resolution to our current conundrum at RT.But, keep in mind we are talking about matching and improving upon Jammal Brown's level of play.
Given that he hasn't been good, given that both Willie Smith and Tyler Polombus per PFF graded out ahead of Brown.
And given that a 3rd/4th round OT is arguably more talented then Willie Smith then its not out of the realm that a 3rd/4th round OT could match if not surpass Brown's level of play.
Unless Cousins wins the back-up job form Wrecks, which is unlikely, he won't even be in a position to play this year.
If Cousins does win the back-up job he still might not play.
And either way as much as I like to don the Burgundy and Gold glasses were not a Super Bowl contending team.
And imo the purpose of a competent back-up is to maintain the Super Bowl aspirations of a contending team.
SmootSmack 08-01-2012, 11:30 AM Neither guy is going to contribute much right now, right? So to me the argument is a developmental one.
Down the road IMO (brilliant talent scout that I am :) ) I think Massie could develop into a very good starter at RT. AT worst he could provide quality depth. We could muddle through this year at RT but have Massie ready to start next year. In this scenario RT, in the long term, is solved.
Cousins to me was way too mistake-prone at MSU and I think he will continue to be mistake-prone as a pro. Others disagree but I personally (again with my seasoned brilliance) don't see Cousins ever developing into even a quality backup. This is why I say that the idea to have two young QB's is smart but IMO Cousins is not the second man.
Since Cousins is on our team I hope that he makes me eat huge helpings of crow but I am of little faith right now.
Ok, got you. So you weren't against a QB per se. Just Cousins.
Could it be your judgment is clouded because you feel Cousins is an unnecessary roadblock on Crompton's path to greatness?
30gut 08-01-2012, 11:31 AM Keep in mind that the question marks along the OLs and DBs are about injuries, not the lack of depth (numbers).And most important and impactful: quality of play.
Lotus 08-01-2012, 11:35 AM But, keep in mind we are talking about matching and improving upon Jammal Brown's level of play.
Given that he hasn't been good, given that both Willie Smith and Tyler Polombus per PFF graded out ahead of Brown.
And given that a 3rd/4th round OT is arguably more talented then Willie Smith then its not out of the realm that a 3rd/4th round OT could match if not surpass Brown's level of play.
Unless Cousins wins the back-up job form Wrecks, which is unlikely, he won't even be in a position to play this year.
If Cousins does win the back-up job he still might not play.
And either way as much as I like to don the Burgundy and Gold glasses were not a Super Bowl contending team.
And imo the purpose of a competent back-up is to maintain the Super Bowl aspirations of a contending team.
Fair enough. I won't argue with that. I was just trying to be measured and conservative in my judgements.
Lotus 08-01-2012, 11:37 AM Ok, got you. So you weren't against a QB per se. Just Cousins.
Could it be your judgment is clouded because you feel Cousins is an unnecessary roadblock on Crompton's path to greatness?
I think having a second young QB is a great idea.
And Crompton is that man! :) (Or Lindley, Harnisch, or Austin Davis IMO).
30gut 08-01-2012, 11:48 AM I think having a second young QB is a great idea.....And Crompton is that man! :) (Or Lindley, Harnisch, or Austin Davis IMO).
I bet there are gonna be some good back-ups availbale in the fallout of the Browns, Seahawks and Dolphins training camps.
REDSKINS4ever 08-01-2012, 11:51 AM People are assuming that Jonathan Crompton is the odd man out behind Cousins and and Grossman. But if Crompton ends up having a good camp and a greater preseason than Cousins and Grossman, then the coaches are going to have to evaluate him fairly
NC_Skins 08-01-2012, 12:01 PM Well, I guess I was right on Thursday/Friday. Brown's injury is not serious. Should actually be back quite soon. So says the latest intel
To add to this.
LL @LL_HTTR247
Brown will be out for a couple weeks but will not go on IR. Looks like 5-8.
Between 5 and 8 weeks. I'm like a few people up here, you really can't count on Brown's health lasting at all.
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