Redskins Talking Trade with Raiders?

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mredskins
07-30-2012, 12:42 PM
Just because he's been in a zone scheme doesn't mean he is a good fit. Let's say he is an "odd" fit at best. He doesn't move much and as you said he is a better pass protector because of his size and reach. But that size works against him in a movement based zone scheme like we run. But yes he is a better player than we have.

Beggars can't be choosey.

Monkeydad
07-30-2012, 12:47 PM
I'd love to get Veldheer...I was hoping we'd draft him.

CultBrennan59
07-30-2012, 01:24 PM
I would LOVE to get Veldheer, but I know its going to be for someone like Khalif. Cooley straight up would probably be a better trade. I don't see a need for an extra pick.

30gut
07-30-2012, 01:30 PM
2. Bringing in some free agents today (assuming these are OL since it was in response to Jammal Brown's injury)

3. Allen was on the phone with the Raiders his morning talking about a potential trade.Interesting.......
2.) FA OL/RBs?

3.) Joe Barksdale OL/ Mike Mitchell S

3. How would you all feel about Cooley for Khalif Barnes and a conditional pick?I would feel that the FO did not properly prioritize addressing the RT with a solid starter earlier during the offseason.
And with Jammal Brown's injury situation that they are now backed into a corner and are forced to trade for a marginal player/stop gap player at RT that was available via FA this offseason without having to trade anything.

SmootSmack
07-30-2012, 01:33 PM
What FA RT (other than Winston) would you have gone after?

30gut
07-30-2012, 01:36 PM
What FA RT (other than Winston) would you have gone after?Since you ask...anyone RT that was available that was an upgrade over Jammal Brown, so basically I would have looked at every FA RT.
And I wouldn't have limited the search for RT to FA I would have looked via draft also.

CultBrennan59
07-30-2012, 01:37 PM
Interesting.......
2.) FA OL/RBs?

3.) Joe Barksdale OL/ Mike Mitchell S

I would feel that the FO did not properly prioritize addressing the RT with a solid starter earlier during the offseason.
And with Jammal Brown's injury situation that they are now backed into a corner and are forced to trade for a marginal player/stop gap player at RT that was available via FA this offseason without having to trade anything.

I agree that our FO did a horrible job with addressing the RT position this offseason. Jamaal Brown never was healthy here. I really feel like Khalif Barnes, if that is the guy we're going for, is not much of an upgrade over some of the OTs we have now. We are going to be giving away a good player for a medicore one. I would just sign a FA OT now, then wait for the 2nd or 3rd week of cuts and just see which RT pops up that way. We should have just bit the bullet and offered Eric Winston whatever and reworked other guys deals, like Jamaals and trents.

Chico23231
07-30-2012, 01:39 PM
What FA RT (other than Winston) would you have gone after?

what an appropriate acronym to describe our right tackle issue (JB stinks) as well as the tackle market in the offseason (stunk)

It is a lil bothersome that Shanny is saying our young guys are not ready for the to step up and be full time starters.

12thMan
07-30-2012, 01:42 PM
I would hate to see Cooley leave under any circumstances. Cooley's only 30 years old. He's no spring chicken, but he still has a lot left in the tank. Fred Davis tweaks an ankle and suddenly you're regretting unloading Cooley. I wouldn't do it.

30gut
07-30-2012, 01:46 PM
Its an assumption to guess what or if Mike Shanahan/FO is saying about our young guys.
All things considered our young guys were decent last year, the run game actually picked up when Jammal Brown was out.
IIRC Jammal Brown rated out the lowest of our RTs per PFF.
If Brown isn't/can't play then the FO should make move if for no other reason then to get enough bodies/depth at the RT position.

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