Redskins Talking Trade with Raiders?

1. Goff had a bit of an uphill climb to begin with, they may just go ahead and part ways now if he's going to miss another year potentially. And if that is the case, maybe it's time to stop going after Giants LBs (Armstead, Barrow, Goff)

2. Still no word on who

3. How would you all feel about Cooley for Khalif Barnes and a conditional pick?

I'm also down with that. He's not the best fit for us but the hour is late for plugging RT. And Cooley, as much as I love him, is kind of dead weight on our roster.

1. Goff had a bit of an uphill climb to begin with, they may just go ahead and part ways now if he's going to miss another year potentially. And if that is the case, maybe it's time to stop going after Giants LBs (Armstead, Barrow, Goff)

2. Still no word on who

3. How would you all feel about Cooley for Khalif Barnes and a conditional pick?

1. I find it hard to believe they had high expectations for Goff considering his injury history. I always felt he was more of a "if he pans out great, if he doesn't no big loss" kind of move.

2. I guess we'll see

3. Not sure how I'd feel about that. Doesn't Khalif Barnes have a rep as an underachiever and/or dirty player? Or am I thinking about someone else. If it's Barnes and a pick it better be a mid-level pick, definitely not a 7th rounder.

1. Goff had a bit of an uphill climb to begin with, they may just go ahead and part ways now if he's going to miss another year potentially. And if that is the case, maybe it's time to stop going after Giants LBs (Armstead, Barrow, Goff)

2. Still no word on who

3. How would you all feel about Cooley for Khalif Barnes and a conditional pick?

ohhhhh boy. I know Id feel fine bout that, but the fanbase is not gonna be too happy. I believe Barnes has improved the last couple years?

ohhhhh boy. I know Id feel fine bout that, but the fanbase is not gonna be too happy. I believe Barnes has improved the last couple years?

We have Fred Davis and niles Paul I'm down

I don't want to part ways with Cools, but if he is done here, the best move would be to trade him for O-line depth if possible.

The Raiders won't trade Veldheer, but if we want some of there more recent draft picks (at corner or tackle) remember that they are under new ownership.

What the Raiders need most is a TE with WCO experience. The obvious problem with a trade is that Chris Cooley wouldn't fit in their current cap situation.

Barnes is a bad fit for our zone-blocking scheme but so was JB what with not being able to move much because of the hip. I'd hate to see Cooley's run end here in a panic-trade for a marginal starting RT who doesn't fit our scheme and a throw-away pick. But then again who is going to start at RT? There should be "better" options.

I think Barnes has been in a zone based blocking scheme since he's been in the league. Jacksonville was kind of on-and-off with zone blocking: they adapted early, then seemed to prefer man, then kind of seemed to make it up as they went.

Barnes isn't going to get much push in the running game no matter what the scheme is. His best skill is his ability to win in pass protection. He's almost certainly going to be a liability off run action whether the Redskins are actually running or faking. I don't think he's a great fit, but he's a better player than Jammal Brown is even when both are healthy.

I mean, if the Redskins PUP/IR Brown, they do have reasonable in house options that should prevent another 2009.

Just because he's been in a zone scheme doesn't mean he is a good fit. Let's say he is an "odd" fit at best. He doesn't move much and as you said he is a better pass protector because of his size and reach. But that size works against him in a movement based zone scheme like we run. But yes he is a better player than we have.

Just because he's been in a zone scheme doesn't mean he is a good fit. Let's say he is an "odd" fit at best. He doesn't move much and as you said he is a better pass protector because of his size and reach. But that size works against him in a movement based zone scheme like we run. But yes he is a better player than we have.I agree with you that Barnes is an odd fit, and that he's also probably not a main target of trade talks with the Raiders.

It's probably more about moving Cooley for a conditional 2013 draft choice. It's weird though, because you have two teams at a draft pick deficit, and both want to acquire picks rather than trade them. Ultimately, I think any deal will end up being player for player.

So if we can pluck a young guy for Cooley who will make this years team and is under contract through at least 2013, we should do it. I wouldn't trade Cooley straight up for Khalif Barnes though. And I say that knowing that Barnes was a better player in 2011 than Cooley was.