New York City Proposes Ban on Big Surary Drink

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Because ounce for ounce it has less calories than orange juice it's healthier for you? You may or may not know this but you sir are an idiot of first order.


...I tried to peel the onion but it seems to have countless layers of stupidity.Way to miss or refuse to admit my point.

The layers of stupidity in this thread have been your and bloomberg's arguments trying to justify a stupid and pretty useless government and nanny state intrusion. By trying to make soda and soda pricing out to be a big EVIL. When your figures and the facts prove its mainly fearmongering to push this stupid proposal. I'm really amazed you don't see that by now.

I guess my question is: most days, I will grab a 20 oz coke from Royal farms, or a liter depending on the day. The 2 Liter which is usually cheaper doesn't enter my mind because I'm not going to drink it. So should they now limit the sizes Coca Cola can sell directly? Why is it ok for a soft drink distributor to sell larger sizes, but not a fast food restaurant? Don't most people get a second, or 3rd refill at the free ones, why should it matter to the government if I choose to actually pay for the larger sizes.

Right now, McD's is selling all the soda sizes for one dollar, how does that fit into the equation?

I guess my question is: most days, I will grab a 20 oz coke from Royal farms, or a liter depending on the day. The 2 Liter which is usually cheaper doesn't enter my mind because I'm not going to drink it. So should they now limit the sizes Coca Cola can sell directly? Why is it ok for a soft drink distributor to sell larger sizes, but not a fast food restaurant? Don't most people get a second, or 3rd refill at the free ones, why should it matter to the government if I choose to actually pay for the larger sizes.

Right now, McD's is selling all the soda sizes for one dollar, how does that fit into the equation?

This law covers fountain soda...people buy fountains drinks out of convenience...we now restrict the consumption of soda at schools but kids can still bring their own soda.

These laws are designed to restrict your freedom all together but certain choices that are typically made on the whim. If we restrict the purchase of tobacco and alcohol because they are considered harmful it stands to reason you can restrict the consumption of high-fructose corn syrup (corn sugar? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/05/30/154009682/fda-rules-corn-syrup-cant-change-its-name-to-corn-sugar)), which is quite unhealthy according to many (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_high-fructose_corn_syrup).

Remember, you are still free to do as you fcking please in your quest to live an unhealthy, just don't get mad when the gov puts road blocks in your way.

This law covers fountain soda...people buy fountains drinks out of convenience...we now restrict the consumption of soda at schools but kids can still bring their own soda.

These laws are designed to restrict your freedom all together but certain choices that are typically made on the whim. If we restrict the purchase of tobacco and alcohol because they are considered harmful it stands to reason you can restrict the consumption of high-fructose corn syrup (corn sugar? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/05/30/154009682/fda-rules-corn-syrup-cant-change-its-name-to-corn-sugar)), which is quite unhealthy according to many (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_high-fructose_corn_syrup).

Remember, you are still free to do as you fcking please in your quest to live an unhealthy, just don't get mad when the gov puts road blocks in your way.

If it was up to me I'd ban computers and all these electronic games that kids sit around and play all day. That's the reason they are fat and we could also eliminate the violence they are subjet to playing these games.

If it was up to me I'd ban computers and all these electronic games that kids sit around and play all day. That's the reason they are fat and we could also eliminate the violence they are subjet to playing these games.

We have parental control feature for this very reason. You can control what you do in your home, you can't control things outside of your home because it's for the community by the community and you are merely one member of the community.

You are free to regulate your kids in your domain and the government is free to regulate you in the communal domain. If you don't like that, take it up with the founders and your representatives.

This law covers fountain soda...people buy fountains drinks out of convenience...we now restrict the consumption of soda at schools but kids can still bring their own soda.

These laws are designed to restrict your freedom all together but certain choices that are typically made on the whim. If we restrict the purchase of tobacco and alcohol because they are considered harmful it stands to reason you can restrict the consumption of high-fructose corn syrup (corn sugar? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/05/30/154009682/fda-rules-corn-syrup-cant-change-its-name-to-corn-sugar)), which is quite unhealthy according to many (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_high-fructose_corn_syrup).

Remember, you are still free to do as you fcking please in your quest to live an unhealthy, just don't get mad when the gov puts road blocks in your way.

2 things,
1) the law doesn't affect convenience stores, so the 7-11 note on big gulps isn't relevant

The proposal before the city Board of Health, the first of its kind in the nation, would limit servings of sugary drinks to 16 ounces (473 ml) at most restaurants, theaters, delis, vending carts and stadium concessions.

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The ban would not apply to convenience, grocery or drug stores, which mostly sell beverages in bottles and cans, and it would exclude diet and dairy-based coffee drinks.

2) if a place like McD's sells all their sodas for $1, and you can go back and refill as often as you like inside, then this becomes a very random law. Would the law require places like McDs to move the dispenser back behind the counter?

We have parental control feature for this very reason. You can control what you do in your home, you can't control things outside of your home because it's for the community by the community and you are merely one member of the community.

You are free to regulate your kids in your domain and the government is free to regulate you in the communal domain. If you don't like that, take it up with the founders and your representatives.

If I don't want my kids drinking 32oz sodas I can also stop them from doing that its not the govorments concern. Also when we have killers in the "community" it becomes a community problem. Seems like people want to pick and choose what they want regulated.

BTW My youngest daughter have probably had maybe 32oz of soda in her life time. I don't think we even have a soda in the house.

2 things,
1) the law doesn't affect convenience stores, so the 7-11 note on big gulps isn't relevant



2) if a place like McD's sells all their sodas for $1, and you can go back and refill as often as you like inside, then this becomes a very random law. Would the law require places like McDs to move the dispenser back behind the counter?

1. I was under the impression that it covered everything. The likes of 7-11 definitely need to be on the list otherwise the law loses its punch.

2. As I state in my previous post the law of diminishing marginal utility (http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/law-of-diminishing-marginal-utility.html) is too powerful for that to happen. Ask yourself, what is the maximum number of times you have filled up more than twice? Hell, even twice?

A psychological generalization that the perceived value of, or satisfaction gained from, a good to a consumer declines with each additional unit acquired or consumed.
Even the most delicious food, for example, will appeal less and less to its consumer when he or she has had enough, and if consumption continues, sickness (disutility) will result. Consumers deal with this phenomenon by consuming a variety of goods rather than lots of one good.



This law is the kinda of law that allows buffets to continue to exist and allows you to drink 64 oz drink without considering it as a multiple of a 16oz drink.

If I don't want my kids drinking 32oz sodas I can also stop them from doing that its not the govorments concern. Also when we have killers in the "community" it becomes a community problem. Seems like people want to pick and choose what they want regulated.

BTW My youngest daughter have probably had maybe 32oz of soda in her life time. I don't think we even have a soda in the house.

Apparently it is the government's concern. They have a constitutional right to regulate.

What community do you live in? Somalia? In my community we have police officers, district attorney's, judges, and juries.

1. I was under the impression that it covered everything. The likes of 7-11 definitely need to be on the list otherwise the law loses its punch.

2. As I state in my previous post the law of diminishing marginal utility (http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/law-of-diminishing-marginal-utility.html) is too powerful for that to happen. Ask yourself, what is the maximum number of times you have filled up more than twice? Hell, even twice?




This law is the kinda of law that allows buffets to continue to exist and allows you to drink 64 oz drink without considering it as a multiple of a 16oz drink.

For the record, I am an unhealthy SOB in my eating habits, I eat McD's normally once a day, and rarely cook much outside Mac and Cheese. My dad forbid us from drinking soda growing up, and once I did, I basically only drink Coca Cola. At 45, my last 2 doctor checkups have come back in good shape for cholesterol and diabetes, I am 225 at 5'11 which obviously isn't great.

All that said, I will normally "top off" my coke at McD's when I first fill it up, and will refill it at least once. At restaurants (ie olive garden) I will usually get 3- 4 refills while I eat.

Nothing that has been said has made me think, yes this is the government's place to regulate.

But of course, it's FOR THE KIDS. :vomit: