Gun Control Thread- Should we?

Guns in the United States: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law (http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states)


A link that keeps numbers.......

A link that keeps numbers.......

A link that contradicts your previous post from Brady Campaign.

Gun Homicides:

2009: 9,146
2008: 9,484
2007: 10,129
2006: 10,225
2005: 10,158
2004: 9,385
2003: 9,659
2002: 9,369
2001: 8,890
1999: 8,259
1998: 9,257

I don't see 30K there, do you?

Thanks for the link, the numbers are close to those of the FBI and CDC.

A link that contradicts your previous post from Brady Campaign.

Gun Homicides:

2009: 9,146
2008: 9,484
2007: 10,129
2006: 10,225
2005: 10,158
2004: 9,385
2003: 9,659
2002: 9,369
2001: 8,890
1999: 8,259
1998: 9,257

I don't see 30K there, do you?

Thanks for the link, the numbers are close to those of the FBI and CDC.


Brady numbers are for all gun deaths,not just homicides so no the numbers aren't close,your welcome.

All firearm deaths

Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm)

and the CDC's source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf)

if you dig into their source, it says in 2009, the homicides committed with firearms was 11,493
Quote:
11,493
, very closer to the FBI numbers.
My point is, just because it's official doesn't mean it's correct.

interesting note from the CDC 2009 source: there were 9,000 suicides committed by suffocation that year.

total suicides that year: 36,909
total homicides that year: 16,799

what do suicides and homicides have in common? bueller? bueller?

All firearm deaths

Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm)

and the CDC's source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf)

if you dig into their source, it says in 2009, the homicides committed with firearms was 11,493
Quote:
11,493
, very closer to the FBI numbers.
My point is, just because it's official doesn't mean it's correct.

interesting note from the CDC 2009 source: there were 9,000 suicides committed by suffocation that year.

total suicides that year: 36,909
total homicides that year: 16,799

what do suicides and homicides have in common? bueller? bueller?

So are you saying that around 20,000 people either die by accident or suicide with guns each year? I'd have a hard time buying that.

So are you saying that around 20,000 people either die by accident or suicide with guns each year? I'd have a hard time buying that.


Not me, the CDC is,hit the link.

Not me, the CDC is,hit the link.

Just because it's official.....

FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns « CBS DC (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-hammers-clubs-kill-more-people-than-rifles-shotguns/)

Interestingly, the guy who started a fire in New York and then shot and killed firefighters, had previsouly killed his 90 year old grandmother by hammer. Shockingly, beating a 90 year old to death with a hammer only warrented a conviction of manslaughter. I wonder what he would have been convicted of if he shot her?

FBI: Hammers, Clubs Kill More People Than Rifles, Shotguns « CBS DC (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/fbi-hammers-clubs-kill-more-people-than-rifles-shotguns/)

Interestingly, the guy who started a fire in New York and then shot and killed firefighters, had previsouly killed his 90 year old grandmother by hammer. Shockingly, beating a 90 year old to death with a hammer only warrented a conviction of manslaughter. I wonder what he would have been convicted of if he shot her?

Parole, maybe a demerit on his permanent record?

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Just some food for thought:

Let's take politics out of gun research - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/08/opinion/halpern-gun-research/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7)