Gun Control Thread- Should we?

If you think a gun ban would solve gun crime you're either uneducated on the topic or lying to yourself and others.

John Lott- More Guns, Less Crime.

Military grade weapons have no place in any home, however.

Then why do countries with less gun ownership have less crime?

Then why do countries with less gun ownership have less crime?

Would you like to name a country rather than just throw that quote out there?

The US has all ways had guns so what esle has changed. The left never wants to look at that side of the issue and wants to put all the blame on the guns.

Then why do countries with less gun ownership have less crime?


They probably have tougher laws on every crime in general. That's what you need to be looking at.

Would you like to name a country rather than just throw that quote out there?

I believe it was a question not a quote. It was meant as an honest question. If you dispute the basis of it I'd be happy to understand your reasoning.

I believe it was a question not a quote. It was meant as an honest question. If you dispute the basis of it I'd be happy to understand your reasoning.

It was both you said they have less crime and then asked why.

I'd like to be clear here:

I have long been somewhat opposed to greater gun control because many of the same reasons that have been stated.

But upon closer examination of gun ownership statistics and some quality time spent reasoning I am finding it harder and harder to rectify the fact the we as a nation have more guns than everyone else in the whole world combined yet we still have vast amount of crime often disproportional to other countries. The argument that guns stop crime is on pretty shaky ground and I have yet to see anyone that can show why we have all these guns yet crime isn't much better. I'd love to understand why.

BTW...I'm willing to be convinced either way.

I'd like to be clear here:

I have long been somewhat opposed to greater gun control because many of the same reasons that have been stated.

But upon closer examination of gun ownership statistics and some quality time spent reasoning I am finding it harder and harder to rectify the fact the we as a nation have more guns than everyone else in the whole world combined yet we still have vast amount of crime often disproportional to other countries. The argument that guns stop crime is on pretty shaky ground and I have yet to see anyone that can show why we have all these guns yet crime isn't much better. I'd love to understand why.

Well a good example is that a kid can steal several cars and never serve a day in jail. I had a car stolen by a kid who had also stolen 3 prior cars. Never served anytime for any of those crimes. The only reason he served anytime for stealing my car is because he had turned 18. My guess is if that happened in any outher country he would have been in jail.

I'd like to be clear here:

I have long been somewhat opposed to greater gun control because many of the same reasons that have been stated.

But upon closer examination of gun ownership statistics and some quality time spent reasoning I am finding it harder and harder to rectify the fact the we as a nation have more guns than everyone else in the whole world combined yet we still have vast amount of crime often disproportional to other countries. The argument that guns stop crime is on pretty shaky ground and I have yet to see anyone that can show why we have all these guns yet crime isn't much better. I'd love to understand why.

Try reading this book (http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/42-constitution-and-legal/686-john-lott-more-guns-still-less-crime), your local library has it.

Twelve years of additional experience and mountains of data confirm the empirical truth – more guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens mean less crime.