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CRedskinsRule 07-23-2012, 12:19 PM I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.
This, and again - This. Given that we had a 5 int game, and a 10 sack game, plus several other losses due in the most part to less then stellar QB play, and given the team went 3-1 with Rex playing ok, I think the improvement RGIII is expected to bring will let other pieces that have been berated (OL, WR corp) finally take a step up. BUT, I have drank the Koolaid so many times that even Jim Jones won't serve it to me. So let's see how Griff and the team do for the first year, then next year I will be ready to drink again.
Lotus 07-23-2012, 12:28 PM This, and again - This. Given that we had a 5 int game, and a 10 sack game, plus several other losses due in the most part to less then stellar QB play, and given the team went 3-1 with Rex playing ok, I think the improvement RGIII is expected to bring will let other pieces that have been berated (OL, WR corp) finally take a step up. BUT, I have drank the Koolaid so many times that even Jim Jones won't serve it to me. So let's see how Griff and the team do for the first year, then next year I will be ready to drink again.
Freakin' hilarious CRed.
mooby 07-23-2012, 12:46 PM I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.
This. I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet. And I don't expect a Newton-like year from RG3 either. I am thinking somewhere in the 8-8 range, with ups and downs. Secondary will be one of the downs.
Monkeydad 07-23-2012, 01:05 PM I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.
I originally typed 11-5 before remembering we have Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Cincy this year.
Monkeydad 07-23-2012, 01:08 PM This. I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet. And I don't expect a Newton-like year from RG3 either. I am thinking somewhere in the 8-8 range, with ups and downs. Secondary will be one of the downs.
Why not?
Griffin is faster, smarter and has a better arm. Newton had ONE competent WR to throw to. Without Steve Smith, newton would have no one. He has a better O-line than RG3, but Griffin can run out of trouble just as well or better and has a better stable of RBs in my opinion.
He should AT LEAST match Newton's numbers, but I'd expect far fewer mistakes (INTs) and a better completion rate.
mredskins 07-23-2012, 01:09 PM Where is aceinthehouse? He have us at 16-0 with SB trophy.
Monkeydad 07-23-2012, 01:12 PM Hey, it COULD happen! :D
The Browns could do it too, since it's only July.
Alvin Walton 07-23-2012, 01:37 PM Can he come close to Cam Newtons rookie numbers?
Comp - 310
ATT - 517
21 TDs
17 Ints
4051 passing yards
706 rushing yards
14 rushing TDs
mooby 07-23-2012, 01:39 PM Why not?
Griffin is faster, smarter and has a better arm. Newton had ONE competent WR to throw to. Without Steve Smith, newton would have no one. He has a better O-line than RG3, but Griffin can run out of trouble just as well or better and has a better stable of RBs in my opinion.
He should AT LEAST match Newton's numbers, but I'd expect far fewer mistakes (INTs) and a better completion rate.
All of Griffin's attributes are debatable, but my key reason for not drinking the kool-aid is the fact that he's a rookie qb. Newton is not the benchmark for which all rookie qb's should be judged by, as far as I'm concerned he's the exception, at least until seasons like the one he had are commonplace for a rookie qb. Newton also had two elite running backs in the backfield, and a wr who has stepped his game up when he has a decent qb under center. I hope the same can happen with Moss but I'm not holding my breath.
Long story short, I really hope RG3 proves me wrong, but if he played average to above-average football this year I won't be suprised. I don't expect him to be Jimmy Clausen 2.0, but I think he'll have his growing pains.
Monksdown 07-23-2012, 01:42 PM Can he come close to Cam Newtons rookie numbers?
Comp - 310
ATT - 517
21 TDs
17 Ints
4051 passing yards
706 rushing yards
14 rushing TDs
He'll have less INT's, less rushing td's, and less passing yards by about 500 yards. I'm optimistic that he can have td/int ratio of 2:1 with more than 500 yards rushing. His yardage wont match Cam because he will only play 14 games.
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