Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Half the GOP is screaming the other half are trying to find the coolaid ,facts are this will help people....don't like it come up with something better.People will now go to the doctors to prvent from getting sick ...not waiting till it's to late,people with spouse's can now stay at home to care for a wife ...or get another job not worring weather their husband or wife will be coverd,....oh yeah and the cost will come down for insurance.......,but Obama...is the devil,if you don't like ....tuff.:cool-smil

Wait, so these people are now going to go out and vote for the guy who originated this health care system? :laughing2


Wouldn't surprise me people are that idiotic. DAMN YOU OBAMA FOR YOUR OBAMACARE! JUST FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO ELECT THE GUY WHO CREATED THE VERY SYSTEM YOU IMPLEMENTED!! THAT'LL SHOW YOU!!AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare (http://mittromneyandhealthcare.blogspot.com/p/romneycare-vs-obamacare.html)

The American Spectator : Obamacare vs. Romneycare -- A Crucial Difference (http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/15/obamacare-vs-romneycare-a-cruc/1)

RomneyCare - The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central (http://mittromneycentral.com/resources/romneycare/)
Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare (http://mittromneyandhealthcare.blogspot.com/p/romneycare-vs-obamacare.html)

The American Spectator : Obamacare vs. Romneycare -- A Crucial Difference (http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/15/obamacare-vs-romneycare-a-cruc/1)

RomneyCare - The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central (http://mittromneycentral.com/resources/romneycare/)
Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

Sammy you say facts yet you posted a link to Romney web page.....oh I'm sure that is full of facts.:doh:

I don't expect Romney to make this the center piece of his campaign and I certainly don't expect it to energize the base like some here think it will. Fact is millions upon millions have been helped by this law. That's not even in dispute. Now that it's been deemed constitutional by the highest court in the land, that too is off the table.

So exactly what is the argument that's going to fire up the base? A bunch of fancy charts, graphs, and Ops written by some egg heads at Heritage Foundation? Yeah, good luck with that.

It's the law of the land. Could use some improvements, but this thing is set in stone. Get over it.

Sammy you say facts yet you posted a link to Romney web page.....oh I'm sure that is full of facts.:doh:Rather than dismiss the links, how about you read them and research the info to see if it's correct.....:doh:

I don't expect Romney to make this the center piece of his campaign and I certainly don't expect it to energize the base like some here think it will. Fact is millions upon millions have been helped by this law. That's not even in dispute. Now that it's been deemed constitutional by the highest court in the land, that too is off the table.

So exactly what is the argument that's going to fire up the base? A bunch of fancy charts, graphs, and Ops written by some egg heads at Heritage Foundation? Yeah, good luck with that.

It's the law of the land. Could use some improvements, but this thing is set in stone. Get over it.You check Romney's fundraising numbers today?

The gov't forcing people to buy health insurance or pay a penalty...tax...or whatever Obama calls it today fires people up. The gov't forcing religious based charities and hospitals to violate their deeply held beliefs or be fined out of existence fires people up.

This certainly ain't anywhere near close to over.

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare (http://mittromneyandhealthcare.blogspot.com/p/romneycare-vs-obamacare.html)

The American Spectator : Obamacare vs. Romneycare -- A Crucial Difference (http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/15/obamacare-vs-romneycare-a-cruc/1)

RomneyCare - The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central (http://mittromneycentral.com/resources/romneycare/)
Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

Interesting stuff on the Romney vetoes, Sammy. I didn't know about them. Thanks for that.

The Romneycare vs. Obamacare link is less helpful as it oversimplifies things in my eyes. For example, the "bipartisan support" part when the legislature was 87% Democrat. That's not exactly the same "bipartisan" reality that one finds on Capitol Hill.

AS USUAL, YOU OVERSIMPLY CRAP AND ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU IS "IDIOTIC".

You oversimplified my statement in which I oversimplified. I have never insinuated that because you don't agree with me, it means you are a idiot. I said,(or implied rather) that if you aren't going to vote for Obama based on the national healthcare program, but are planning on voting for Romney, who is the founder of such program, it's pretty idiotic.





Obamacare and Romneycare have very key differences, for those who like facts rather than all caps and condescending BS, here's some good info:

Pay particular attention to point #6, Romney's vetoes that were over-ridden by a Dem state legislature.

You might as well have linked me to FOX News Sammy. You expect me to believe he's going to put ANYTHING remotely bad on his major website? No, he's going to slant it to make it look like he's the guy you should be voting for. Take this for example.

http://pages.suddenlink.net/nazgull/Romneycare.jpg

Strong bipartisan support? Is that why they overrode his vetoes? Also, is he really going to compare the state run government bipartisan levels to that on the national level? ....lol I think we all know the GOP goes out of it's way to stonewall anybody not in their group. Why? So they can point a finger come next election and SAY LOOK!! HE"S DONE NOTHING!


http://pages.suddenlink.net/nazgull/Romneycare2.jpg

Look at the word play here. "A mere modest 1% of the state budget". Notice he doesn't use overall numbers like he did with the national bill (500 BILLION). Also, isn't cutting Medicare by 500 billion a good thing to you GOPers?

http://pages.suddenlink.net/nazgull/Romneycare3.jpg

LOOK GUYS! IT"S INTENDED AS A SOCIALISM!!! Who cares how long the bill was? You mean to tell me that 70 page bill is more detailed than that 2,074 bill? Doubt it. I'm willing to bet you that everything on the right side could be applied on the left side as well, but you know they aren't going to put that in. The bill was probably so long because it ended up with billions in pork.
In health bill, billions for parks, paths - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/07/09/in_health_bill_billions_for_parks_paths/)


As far as your point #6, lets look at what amendments he vetoed.

Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including a $295-per-person fee on businesses with 11 employees or more that do not provide health insurance.[47][48] Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental and eyeglass benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid.[49][50] However, the state legislature overrode all of the vetoes.[51]
Governorship of Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney#Health_care)



Puhleease. Give a friggin break Sammy. For all intents and purposes, the Obamacare and Romneycare are THE SAME THING. You can nickle and dime the few discrepancies, but a spade is still a spade bro.

Sammy you say facts yet you posted a link to Romney web page.....oh I'm sure that is full of facts.:doh:

:lol:

You guys are just playing a game semantics. The fact of the matter is republicans thought of and inspired the individual mandate and Romney was the first politician to bring us closer to universal healthcare. I think reasonable can agree that Romney is not the ideal vanguard of the anti-obamacare movement. A simple message wins the day and Romney's messages is not going to be simpler than Obama's on healthcare.

It is not the second quarter, there 1 sec left in the game and one last hail marry play remains. The filibuster is a deadly play. Healthcare is here to stay move the **** on.