Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Lotus, I'd also like to see a true Universal Health Care system, just not sure how you support the additional load created by illegal immigrants as we do in CA.

Would removing the Insurance companies from the equation help to create a more egalitarian system?

The federal goverment cannot even run the national flood Ins Program and you guiys think they can run your health care. The sad part is that this is going to be a very expensive "I Told You So" a few years from now.

The federal goverment cannot even run the national flood Ins Program and you guiys think they can run your health care. The sad part is that this is going to be a very expensive "I Told You So" a few years from now.

Run by computers?

/Sarc

The best part is that this plan is about the same plan as Massachusetts.

Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country, according to a new analysis that highlights the state’s challenge in trying to rein in medical costs after passage of a landmark 2006 law that mandated coverage for nearly everyone.


Great idea on in gov. Take a failing plan in one state and make it the national plan. Bravo!!!

Welcome to this socialist nation.

Rather make an attempt to restructure healthcare and try something new than sit back like a bunch of dipshits on the right and do nothing. Anybody who has a clue knows rising healthcare costs over the last ten years and with massive aging population, something needed to been now. Yet the right bitches and moans and offers no plan. Please check the figures on health care spending by this country over the last 10 years, do you think we need to do something?

I expected the the conservative court to strike down the individual mandate but I guess Robert was in legacy protection mode. It wasn't all good news though, the chief justice parsed the law such that the feds can't tell states "take xxxx action or else we won't give you monies."

Regardless, I can't wait to hear Romney dance his way around the issue. You guys sent the only guy who can least talk about Obamacare with a knife to a gun fight.

Rather make an attempt to restructure healthcare and try something new than sit back like a bunch of dipshits on the right and do nothing. Anybody who has a clue knows rising healthcare costs over the last ten years and with massive aging population, something needed to been now. Yet the right bitches and moans and offers no plan. Please check the figures on health care spending by this country over the last 10 years, do you think we need to do something?

This plan has been tried by Mass. and they pay the highest premium IN THE COUNTRY for health ins. This is not new its just a bad plan.

This plan has been tried by Mass. and they pay the highest premium IN THE COUNTRY for health ins. This is not new its just a bad plan.

They are also one of the states with the highest cost of living. Your point?

News Headlines (http://www.cnbc.com/id/43484111/The_Most_Expensive_States_To_Live_In_2011?slide=2)



Let's delve further into your claim about the health insurance and see what we can find. Oooo...lookie here. I want you to read the whole article so that why you won't be propagating misleading info.

Does Massachusetts Have the Nation’s Highest Health Insurance Premiums? It Depends. - Health Stew - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/health_stew/2011/11/does_massachusetts_have_the_na.html)

Some things help to explain the difference. Massachusetts health insurance tends to include lower deductibles and other kinds of cost sharing which are much higher in most other states, a difference that inflates MA premiums as compared with those in other states. Massachusetts has the highest proportion of physicians, nurses and many other health professional categories than all other states. And our costs have always been the highest, not just since the Massachusetts health reform law passed in 2006. But still, guilty as charged.

There are other key differences, and the most important one is income. Massachusetts had the 4th highest median household income among the 50 states in 2010 (after Maryland, New Jersey, and Connecticut). That accounts for a big part of the difference. The raw (unadjusted) premiums shown above don't take into account ability to pay. For example, assume Ms. M lives in Massachusetts and has $100 in income and health insurance premiums costing $20. Then assume Mr. A lives in Arkansas, has income of $50, and health insurance premiums costing $15. Even though Mr. A pays less, he is paying 30% of his income and Ms. M is paying 20% of hers. Who is worse off? I think Mr. A from Arkansas.


Checkmate.

Lotus, I'd also like to see a true Universal Health Care system, just not sure how you support the additional load created by illegal immigrants as we do in CA.

Would removing the Insurance companies from the equation help to create a more egalitarian system?

Yes, I think that removing the insurance companies from the equation might makes things both more egalitarian and cheaper, since insurance companies are complicit in driving up costs.

Universal health care works in other countries, so it should work here, too. Don't you think so?

Welcome to this socialist nation.

Police protection, fire departments, and public schools are a lot more socialist than the Affordable Care Act. Should we do away with these socialist realities?