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firstdown 06-29-2012, 03:57 PM [quote=Slingin Sammy 33;923232]
Can you use any non-biased sources please? First Romney's main web page, now Fox business news? See the Presidential thread to see my breakdown on the "independent of each other" agencies of Fox.
http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/47853-2012-presidential-election-free-all-edition-8.html#post923029
The link you provided using the non-bias Media Matters.
firstdown 06-29-2012, 04:06 PM Premium Trends 2011 (http://www.commonwealthfund.org/usr_doc/site_docs/slideshows/PremiumTrends2011/PremiumTrends2011.html)
Here is 2010 data, and I imagine it'll be the same for 2011. I can do this all day long.
Nice try again. (no seriously not really)
How about you provide proof instead of me doing all your work for you. You want to paint that Mass is paying the highest rates, but fail to see they have the highest income AND that they actually pay less than most states as a percentage of income.
So if I make $100,000 and buy a car for $20,000 I paid less if a guy making $50,000 paid $18,000 for the same car?
saden1 06-29-2012, 04:20 PM So if I make $100,000 and buy a car for $20,000 I paid less if a guy making $50,000 paid $18,000 for the same car?
It's hard to explain and you probably won't get it but lets just say you and that guy probably won't be eating at the same restaurant and drinking $9 Belgium beer.
firstdown 06-29-2012, 04:30 PM It's hard to explain and you probably won't get it but lets just say you and that guy probably won't be eating at the same restaurant and drinking $9 Belgium beer.
That's because he spent more money on his car!!!
saden1 06-29-2012, 06:10 PM That's because he spent more money on his car!!!
Don't forget to include the cost of insuring the car and putting gas in it.
I agree, it's their choice to buy a car (http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybuilder/2012/05/10/average-price-of-a-new-car/) for that much instead of walking and ride the bus.
NC_Skins 06-29-2012, 08:54 PM So if I make $100,000 and buy a car for $20,000 I paid less if a guy making $50,000 paid $18,000 for the same car?
You paid less as a percentage of income. His car cost him 36% of his income. It only cost you 20% of your income.
Obviously you haven't grasped the fact of "cost of living". Guess what? McDonalds food cost more in New York than it does North Carolina. So does housing and many other things.
Massachusetts average cost of home: $520,179
North Carolina average cost of home: $280,913
Almost double.
They have the second highest income (per person) average in the United States.
State-by-state: Average income per person - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-03-23-state-income-table_N.htm)
So would you rather buy something that takes up 20% of your income or 36% of your income? Basic math.
NC_Skins 06-29-2012, 09:05 PM This sums up American politics very well.
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/4yZ4FZz..VT3dwMgT62SPA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thesideshow/cryface.jpg
Lotus 06-29-2012, 09:39 PM You paid less as a percentage of income. His car cost him 36% of his income. It only cost you 20% of your income.
Obviously you haven't grasped the fact of "cost of living". Guess what? McDonalds food cost more in New York than it does North Carolina. So does housing and many other things.
Massachusetts average cost of home: $520,179
North Carolina average cost of home: $280,913
More than double.
They have the second highest income (per person) average in the United States.
State-by-state: Average income per person - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-03-23-state-income-table_N.htm)
So would you rather buy something that takes up 20% of your income or 36% of your income? Basic math.
520,179 is not more than double of 280,913. But your point remains.
NC_Skins 06-29-2012, 10:12 PM 520,179 is not more than double of 280,913. But your point remains.
Herp. Derp.
My mistake. Was thinking "almost" double.
Giantone 06-30-2012, 08:52 AM [quote=12thMan;923218]"
- Doctors will leave medicine, new doctors will not make investment and will choose other careers leading to an increased shortage of doctors and reduced quality of care.
- Government determines treatment options, particularly important for seniors. "Death Panels", probably not but "rationing of limited resources" absolutely: End-of-Life Medical Advice: Devaluing Patients in Name of Greater Good? - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidshaywitz/2012/06/01/why-we-shouldnt-dismiss-death-panels-as-pure-demagoguery/)
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Sorry Sammy but this ,this is the bullshit that the GOP throws out there to scare everybody over the arge of 70..and it just ain't true.
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