EARTHQUAKE2689
05-19-2012, 09:58 AM
Pretty simple our running games was 25th w/4.0 ypc theirs was 26th w/4.2 ypc hence on par.
Lead backs: (them) Donald Brown 645 yds 4.8 ypc/Roy Helu 640 yds 4.2 ypc
I showed the stats behind my opinion of our respective OLs coupled with the fact that they're adding a starters at OG/OT.
:doh: Funny how I've never said the above nor is the above topic brought up in this thread.
However this question, which is stated is:
What type of rookie season production does Luck need to justify the 'best prospect since' hype? (60.0%--4,051yds--7.8ypa--21 TDs--17 Ints--84.5 Rating +706 rush yds--14 rush TDs)
Just to tickle my fancy, whose stats are those you posted? It's not Albert Pujos. Yeah not buying the lineman or running game being equal or theirs being better.
30gut
05-19-2012, 10:07 AM
Just to tickle my fancy, whose stats are those you posted? It's not Albert Pujos. Yeah not buying the lineman or running game being equal or theirs being better.We'll i guess stating 'not buying...(whatever)' as opposed to an actual dialogue of reasons, facts or stats equates to having a discussion in your book.
The stats posted in the question are from Cam Newton's rookie season.
They represent the best rookie season QB stats to date, if some other QB posted better rookie season numbers then those would have been included in the question as a benchmark.
I've answered your question, are you gonna respond to my actual question?
(or keep trying to misrepresent or re-characterize my question which appears below)
What type of rookie season production does Luck need to justify the 'best prospect since' hype? (60.0%--4,051yds--7.8ypa--21 TDs--17 Ints--84.5 Rating +706 rush yds--14 rush TDs)
Luck could end up with more yards if you believe the Colts are going to be playing from behind a lot. But I think RG3 ends up with the better TD/INT ratio and is more efficient overall.
Evilgrin
05-19-2012, 11:38 AM
I agree with alot of the people that say Luck, because he'll be throwing a ton on that awful team. When he isn't running for his life...
skinsfaninok
05-19-2012, 12:48 PM
Griffin: 3,542 yards 22TDs 13Ints 544 rushing yards 5TDs
Luck: 3,318 yards 19TDs 15Ints
I'd be down for that every year
REDSKINS4ever
05-19-2012, 02:19 PM
Griffin III will have the better statical year because he has a better offensive line and more reliable weapons to throw to.
SirClintonPortis
05-19-2012, 02:27 PM
Griffin probably would. We have a pass-happy offense and an Oline entering the critical Year 3 of coagulation in this scheme.
SirClintonPortis
05-19-2012, 02:52 PM
Just to tickle my fancy, whose stats are those you posted? It's not Albert Pujos. Yeah not buying the lineman or running game being equal or theirs being better.
Haha, football debates are mostly about "maybe this, maybe that" because conclusive evidence is so hard to come by.
It is reckless to make absolute statements about OL play because the stats don't do justice in showing what is occuring on the field. Many confounding variables need to be considered before making the final conclusion. If that does not occur, then questioning the conclusion is to be expected due to demand for better evidence.
It's like having boob size measurements but you don't get to see the rest of the girl's body. If she's fat as hell, well, too bad. lol