2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

I think the game just changed. Mittens got exposed for going after cheap child labor. Such a shiny beacon that our country should look towards! Where in that video did Romney say he was going after child labor? He was contrasting life in China with life in the US. How stupid can your spin get here?

Romney said we had it made here, compared to situations like the one he talked about in China. Show where Romney said he approved of it, instead of being surprised by it.

And you didn't even get minor details right. 18 to 23 is child labor?

This is why I ignore this thread normally. All the republican bashing going on now, it appears to be lies and exaggeration at best. Like the description of this video. Again, fear and division is all Democrats have left at this point, like the guy I wish was at the top of the Republican ticket said. But I guess you guys didn't watch that speech, just tried to find someone else to poke holes in it for you.

"The game just changed", is kinda funny. If this video isn't being described accurately, what does this mean about all the other mud thrown around in this thread? I'd say "the game" against the republicans has just been exposed as lies and hyperbole at best.

uh oh.....check out the difference in % between now and Nov. 2008.

Summary of Party Affiliation - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/mood_of_america_archive/partisan_trends/summary_of_party_affiliation)

I may already have the liquor paid for at my post-election party...huh saden?

Daily Swing State Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll)

Lets take a look at those numbers after the DNC, or few weeks after that.

There is always a slight bump after each respective NC, that soon goes away.

I wonder how many times you would hear the word "cult" from the right if the Democratic nominee was the Mormon and the gop candidate was a protestant/catholic. A friend and I spoke how this has barely been mentioned, think it shows the ethics of each sides' campaign approach. Funny to think about how the right tried to call Obama a Muslim just last election.

It's hard to make the case that we're not better off with these types of arguments:

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Romney received practically no bump from the convention. But Obama sucks.

It's hard to make the case that we're not better off with these types of arguments:

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Wow, an honest person running for the WH. Obama is like the past Redskin mgrs. Yes he started with a bad situation but he has done very little to make it any better.

It's hard to make the case that we're not better off with these types of arguments:

kMj8KkO23xULOL, this is probably example #3,392 why you should never take Al Sharpton's word on anything.

The full quote (LINK (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Why-Newt/%28page%29/2)):

INGRAHAM: Isn't that a hard argument to make if you're saying -- Okay, he inherited this recession, and he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now we're seeing some more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isn't that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?

ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? [laughter] It just happens to be the truth.... at some point it's going to get better, but I don't think President Obama's helping it.

(Bold and underline mine)

So no, it's not a tough argument for Romney to make. Not if you think about what the economy has done the past four years. We were in a deep recession. Now we're in a relatively growthless, jobless recovery. That economy is better off than it was four years ago, but considering where we were four years ago, that doesn't mean the economy is doing well now. Google terms like "economic cycle" and do some research.

Here's what Romney's argument actually is: (LINK (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/mitt_romneys_new_problem_a_ris034764.php)):

In his remarks [Friday], Romney also acknowledged the economy was getting better — something he has said before….

“And [President Obama]’s going to say the economy is getting better,” Romney said. “Thank heavens it’s getting better. It’s getting better not because of him, it’s in spite of him and what he’s done.”

If one is going to talk about someone's argument, saden, shouldn't one at least talk about the actual argument instead of cherrypicking soundbites? Or do you think Al Sharpton on MSNBC can be counted on to report things fairly?

LOL, this is probably example #3,392 why you should never take Al Sharpton's word on anything.

The full quote (LINK (http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Why-Newt/%28page%29/2)):

INGRAHAM: Isn't that a hard argument to make if you're saying -- Okay, he inherited this recession, and he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now we're seeing some more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isn't that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?

ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? [laughter] It just happens to be the truth.... at some point it's going to get better, but I don't think President Obama's helping it.

(Bold and underline mine)

So no, it's not a tough argument for Romney to make. Not if you think about what the economy has done the past four years. We were in a deep recession. Now we're in a relatively growthless, jobless recovery. That economy is better off than it was four years ago, but considering where we were four years ago, that doesn't mean the economy is doing well now. Google terms like "economic cycle" and do some research.

Here's what Romney's argument actually is: (LINK (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/mitt_romneys_new_problem_a_ris034764.php)):

In his remarks [Friday], Romney also acknowledged the economy was getting better — something he has said before….

“And [President Obama]’s going to say the economy is getting better,” Romney said. “Thank heavens it’s getting better. It’s getting better not because of him, it’s in spite of him and what he’s done.”

If one is going to talk about someone's argument, saden, shouldn't one at least talk about the actual argument instead of cherrypicking soundbites? Or do you think Al Sharpton on MSNBC can be counted on to report things fairly?


......as fairly as Fox and there band of mud slingers.

Wow, an honest person running for the WH. Obama is like the past Redskin mgrs. Yes he started with a bad situation but he has done very little to make it any better.

Things would be a hell of alot better had the republican congress stop being petty and thought about the people of the United States and pass a bill or 2 but that would mean that the President was doing his job....and God forbid republicans can't have that!