2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

Same old garbage stamped with a new post date and number.


...we'll find out soon enough what most Americans want.

SlingingSammy, Obama has two books that he wrote prior to entering the White House, served in the U.S. Senate. He's been on the national scene going on 8 years. He was the Harvard Law Review Editor. Maybe it's just me, but Harvard Law Review sounds pretty mainstream to me.

You keep saying his "political background" as if he's Jason Bourne or someone. LOL. Why do you repeat it like it's so mysterious and one needs a venn diagram to explain it. His "political background". Funny guy. How do you square your talking points with his legislative record. Barack Obama was one of 50 Senators and has been in the public eye for well over a decade. Voted with his party the majority of the time like any loyal politician. Voters rendered a verdict in 2008 and they'll do so again in a couple of months.

Here's another question? Are any of his votes any different from his colleagues in the Senate? Nope. As a Senator did Obama author any bills that's considered outside of mainstream political thought. A resounding no.

But you know Senator Obama and Republican Dick Lugar co-sponsored a nuclear proliferation bill. That uh..was signed into law. That radical Dick Lugar.

Did the movie point out all the Republicans in Obama's cabinet?

What you've outlined is policy disagreements. And that's perfectly okay. We've had this discussion before. I'm not trying to convince you that those policies or good, bad, or otherwise. You just disagree. You're one of millions of Americans that disagreed with Obama in 2008 and still disagree with him. Okay, and? Doesn't make him socialist or some secret commie with a secret agenda.

Oh..Kenya? Really? He met his dad one effin time and now he's suddenly influenced by his politics and is socialist? That's a helluva leap, especially since Obama never lived in Kenya one day in his life. NOT ONE DAY. Is that how works? Shit, let me hang out with Magic Johnson if shit transfers that easily.

Again, you seem to wrongfully conclude that if it's not authentically conservative then it's either radical or socialist. Well, most Americans disagree with that assessment. We have a two party system in this country. Democrats have a fundamentally different view on the economy than Republicans. Doesn't make our party European or this new sh*t floating around Republican circles these days. We've always had different views. That's a good thing. Sharp differences are helpful when figuring out who to elect to public office.

SlingingSammy, Obama has two books that he wrote prior to entering the White House, served in the U.S. Senate. He's been on the national scene going on 8 years. He was the Harvard Law Review Editor. Maybe it's just me, but Harvard Law Review sounds pretty mainstream to me. While at Harvard he was still quite to the left, a "liberal's liberal" I've seen quoted.

You keep saying his "political background" as if he's Jason Bourne or someone. LOL. Why do you repeat it like it's so mysterious and one needs a venn diagram to explain it. His "political background". Funny guy. How do you square your talking points with his legislative record.Not sure how I'm being mysterious, should I use another term, maybe political upbringing? His family; grandparents (who raised him for years), mother, birth-father, close family friend "FranK", we're all far-left socialists/Communists.

His legislative record in the U.S. Senate (only 3 yrs.) is very liberal leaning, even ranking most liberal one year. We've been over this, it shouldn't be in dispute. The guy also missed 24% of his votes, far aobve the median of 2.4%

Barack Obama, President - GovTrack.us (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/barack_obama/400629)

Here's another question? Are any of his votes any different from his colleagues in the Senate? Nope. As a Senator did Obama author any bills that's considered outside of mainstream political thought. A resounding no.See above, he is far-left....that's outside of the mainstream.

Because you bring up a single bill he worked on across the aisle that makes him a moderate....LOL.

Did the movie point out all the Republicans in Obama's cabinet?Ray LaHood....liberal R from Chicago with ties to Rahm Emanuel and Obama's Chi-town crew...haha OK, and Robert Gates...now retired and replaced with Panetta (D). I don't knnow why the movie would point that out.

What you've outlined is policy disagreements......Doesn't make him socialist or some secret commie with a secret agenda.You asked where Obama was outside the politcal mainstream, I presented specific points and policies he has implemented that are outside the political mainstream here in the U.S. Is he a straight out Communist, no. Does he have a far-left agenda and see himself (the federal gov't) as the authority that rights "social injustice"...absolutely. Is he against capitalism and see the free market as unfair...absolutely. Is that socialism....absolutely.

Oh..Kenya? Really? He met his dad one effin time and now he's suddenly influenced by his politics and is socialist? That's a helluva leap, especially since Obama never lived in Kenya one day in his life. NOT ONE DAY. Is that how works? Shit, let me hang out with Magic Johnson if shit transfers that easily.You need to read a bit more. Obama spent at least 5 weeks in Kenya in the late '80s (likely 1988). I would say 5 weeks is a bit longer than 1 day. And the influence wasn't just his Dad, but entire family.

Just some other tidbits:
1985 to 1988 — Obama worked as a "community organizer" for the "Industrial Areas Foundation" (IAF), an organization founded by Marxist radical Saul Alinsky. Obama also worked with the Alinsky group "Developing Communities Project" (DCP), of which Obama became director; "ACORN" (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now); and Project Vote. ACORN was founded by Wade Rathke — an associate of Weather Underground founder William Ayers — and is one of the largest and most powerful leftist organizations in the United States.

Believe what you want, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's probably a duck.

While at Harvard he was still quite to the left, a "liberal's liberal" I've seen quoted.

Not sure how I'm being mysterious, should I use another term, maybe political upbringing? His family; grandparents (who raised him for years), mother, birth-father, close family friend "FranK", we're all far-left socialists/Communists.

His legislative record in the U.S. Senate (only 3 yrs.) is very liberal leaning, even ranking most liberal one year. We've been over this, it shouldn't be in dispute. The guy also missed 24% of his votes, far aobve the median of 2.4%

Barack Obama, President - GovTrack.us (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/barack_obama/400629)

See above, he is far-left....that's outside of the mainstream.

Because you bring up a single bill he worked on across the aisle that makes him a moderate....LOL.

Ray LaHood....liberal R from Chicago with ties to Rahm Emanuel and Obama's Chi-town crew...haha OK, and Robert Gates...now retired and replaced with Panetta (D). I don't knnow why the movie would point that out.

You asked where Obama was outside the politcal mainstream, I presented specific points and policies he has implemented that are outside the political mainstream here in the U.S. Is he a straight out Communist, no. Does he have a far-left agenda and see himself (the federal gov't) as the authority that rights "social injustice"...absolutely. Is he against capitalism and see the free market as unfair...absolutely. Is that socialism....absolutely.

You need to read a bit more. Obama spent at least 5 weeks in Kenya in the late '80s (likely 1988). I would say 5 weeks is a bit longer than 1 day. And the influence wasn't just his Dad, but entire family.

Just some other tidbits:
1985 to 1988 — Obama worked as a "community organizer" for the "Industrial Areas Foundation" (IAF), an organization founded by Marxist radical Saul Alinsky. Obama also worked with the Alinsky group "Developing Communities Project" (DCP), of which Obama became director; "ACORN" (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now); and Project Vote. ACORN was founded by Wade Rathke — an associate of Weather Underground founder William Ayers — and is one of the largest and most powerful leftist organizations in the United States.

Believe what you want, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's probably a duck.

If it Looks like the klan,walks like the klan ...and "sounds" like the klan,.....it's probably the klan.

Here's where is Obama outside the political mainstream:
- His politcal background is Socialist/Anti-colonialist due to his father's roots in Kenya, his mother's and grandparents Communist/Marxist beliefs, Frank Marshall Davis' (Communist Party member) influence, his associations and professors in college (Edward Said, POL supporter and apologist for terrorism)and his time overseas in Indonesia and Kenya.



This is where you lose all credibility with me,you blame his father , mother and his teachers.This is nothing but extreme right wing BS!Republican scare tactics,you know you can't win on issues becuase it's the republican congress that is killing this country and holding up everything.

Slinging, you're grasping bro. It's kind of amusing the lengths you go through to prove Obama's unAmericaness.

I say Harvard. You say how left leaning Harvard is. I say Ray Lahood, you bring up some bogus crap about Chicago, as if Chicago is located in Eastern Europe not middle America.

Sec. Defense Bob Gates, Fed Chair Bernanke, Secretary of Army John Mchugh, and Gen. David Petraeus. All Republican appointments.


How funny you bring up Saul Alinsky who died in 1972 when Obama was a boy. Never met the man a day in his life.

But you know who met and shook hands with Saul Alinsky, George Romney. Mitt Romney's father associated with the radical Alinksy.

Hey Warpath, I wonder what SlinginSammy33 thinks of the radical Saul Alinksky personally meeting with Mitt Romney's father, George Romney.

Slingin33, you care to explain why George Romney is palling around with radicals. Which of course makes Mitt Romney a radical.

When Saul Alinsky met George Romney | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/24/when-saul-alinsky-met-george-romney/)

“I think you ought to listen to Alinsky,” George Romney, a member of the GOP’s liberal wing and an unsuccessful presidential candidate, told his political allies in the wake of 1967’s devastating race riots in Detroit

By the way, Mitt Romney's grandfather was born in Mexico. Nothing wrong with that, just saying this born in Kenya shit swings both ways.

Do we really have people up here trying to equate Obama to Marxism?...lol