2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)


FRPLG
08-21-2012, 02:30 PM
I'm convinced NC is an anarchist at heart. As such, he gets a little from column A (opinions of "liberals" within the liberal democratic political system), a little from column B (opinions of "conservatives" within the liberal democratic political system) and a whole lot from Bakunin.

IMHO - the terms "left" and "right" are becoming more and more archaic with the polarization of opinions and the erosion of the 18th century liberal democratic system established by the founders.

Even as recently as forty years ago, both left and right bought into the ideal of classic liberal democracy and the then existing political system as a means of reaching a solution to differences. Libertarianism, anarchism, communism and similar philosophies were considered fringe and incompatible with such a system.

Now, as our govt. gets larger, more intrusive and less responsive, frustration over the amount of corporate money and all things Washington is leading people to re-explore and buy into these once fringe political philosophies that de-emphasize the societal nature of civilization and play upon utopian desires.

All of this is just my musings on Tuesday morning. I have proof and/or links for none of it. Sorry for the digression.

The two party system simply no longer suits us. Maybe it never did.

NC_Skins
08-21-2012, 03:04 PM
The two party system simply no longer suits us. Maybe it never did.

Pretty much explains how I feel about our system, and its why I will be voting for her come November. Don't tell the Elephant crew running around here though, would shatter their thoughts of me being the liberal Obama supporter.

B3SfivTK8m4

I think you should all listen to this woman. She has more knowledge and direction for this country than any politician out there.

Chico23231
08-21-2012, 03:10 PM
love me some sin button

RedskinRat
08-21-2012, 04:21 PM
Fit in a box, NC! One or the other, you can't have any other choices!

firstdown
08-21-2012, 05:51 PM
Pretty much explains how I feel about our system, and its why I will be voting for her come November. Don't tell the Elephant crew running around here though, would shatter their thoughts of me being the liberal Obama supporter.

B3SfivTK8m4

I think you should all listen to this woman. She has more knowledge and direction for this country than any politician out there.

Just because I have called you liberal does not mean your a dem. The green party is liberal or progressive how ever you want to call it. I give you credit for voting for who you most support. She says the war put us in dept but if you take all her programs we would be in even more dept.

NC_Skins
08-21-2012, 06:01 PM
:laughing2



http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/551883_410231415698333_1316280441_n.jpg


This is applicable during any Presidential term.

Dirtbag59
08-21-2012, 08:02 PM
No no no you don't understand. Haven't you figured out that in politics there are only two teams. Team elephant and team donkey. You can't have varied nuanced and philosophically based opinions that cross the political spectrum. Its always us versus them.

I don't care what they say. Team Liger till the day I die.

NC_Skins
08-22-2012, 02:16 PM
More often or not, I'm generally bashing the GOP side of it and it normally is for a good reason. It's because many of these loons simply give me (and others) the ammunition to do so. Corruption I recognize as being rampant among a majority of the politicians on both sides. Stupidity though, seems to consistently come from the right side of things and it generally involves religion.


If what Atkin said the other day didn't do it, check what this high ranking Republican official in MO had to say.

GOP official says God chooses to bless raped women with pregnancy - Detroit liberal | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/gop-official-says-god-chooses-to-bless-raped-women-with-pregnancy)
Barnes was quoted by The New York Times saying, "abortion is never an option." Barnes went on to biblically claim that, "If God has chosen to bless this person [the rape victim] with a life, you don’t kill it."


At what point do we start considering these people as mentally ill? What is the difference between nutjobs like this, and guys who take poison to ride off into a comet's trail?

I find it ironic that these same type of "republicans" chirping about how great democracy is, yet really are trying to institute a theocracy with their beliefs governing over people.

Before you get offended, I realize that not all conservatives and religious people are like this woman, but when you have the vast majority of the GOP proposing legislation that backs up what these nutjobs think, it says a lot about the people they represent.

saden1
08-22-2012, 02:58 PM
It's truly comic relief season (http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/08/20/exp-point-obrien-odonnell.cnn). Get yourself edumacated folks :doh:

NC_Skins
08-22-2012, 03:09 PM
It's truly comic relief season (http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/08/20/exp-point-obrien-odonnell.cnn). Get yourself edumacated folks :doh:

I hate you for subjecting me to that woman. DAMN YOU SADEN!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

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