2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

So ,Sammy is this a scare tactic?People need to watch the vidio!


Weekly Address: Congress Should Back Plan to Hire Teachers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ndkUaQ5HsBk)#!

Yes, several factual inaccuracies.

Cutter: Obama's plan doesn't cut benefits. Lie.
Truth: Even factcheck agrees Obama's plan will reduce benefits for those on Medicare Advantage plans.

Cutter claims Romney's plan "takes away guaranteed benefits for seniors". Flat out lie.
Truth: Romney and Ryan have said several times, their plan doesn't affect anyone under 55.

Cutter: Obama's plan extends Medicare by 8 years.....straight BS. This is likely a wild distortion from the absurd claim that under Romney/Ryan Medicare is bankrupt by 2016 and under Obama's plan it doesn't bankrupt until 2024.
Truth: CBO and many others have stated the Medicare Trust Fund will be bankrupt under Obama's plan, best case by 2024, worst case by 2020. I don't know where the hell Cutter's claim of Medicare being bankrupt by 2016 comes from.

That's a start. While I'm answering stuff....whatever happened to the Obama junk-bond loans to bankrupt green energy companies response? Don't kill yourself on it, there is no response other than "galactically corrupt".

I'll take CBOs word over Politifact everyday of the week. And if you believe that it's true that Obama cut Medicare benefits to seniors, I can't have a Medicare debate with you. We can debate about other things, but this conversation is a non-starter.

It's not the patients that have benefits cut, it's the providers. Here's a link from CBS: That myth has been debunked by every major news outlet for the past week. Center, left and right -- they've all clarified and made the point clear.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57494197/romneys-$716b-medicare-cut-attack-is-dubious/

Another article in today's New York Times. Please read this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/opinion/sunday/truth-and-lies-about-medicare.html?pagewanted=all

It's also a fact, every independent study shows that Medicare's solvency has been increased by 8 years.

Again, I think because you want something to be true, then in your mind it's true. That's not how it works, Slingin'

As far as the junk bond loans to the risky green energy companies. I'll say the same thing I said about Solyndra, the energy portfolio has wildly under performed and has been a disappointment. Cronyism at work? Sure, maybe. Can't say for sure. "Corrupt" or illegal, I highly doubt that. Not with a Republican Congress itching to hang any scandal around Obama's neck every chance they get. If there was any impropriety, I'm 100% confident Darrell Issa would be on TV 24/7 bringing attention to it and having officials testify before Congress. The fact that he hasn't would give me pause if I were accusing the Administration of doing shady backroom deals. But that's just me.

I think if you dig deeper into the failures behind these companies they just couldn't compete with green companies abroad, namely China, and we started to pouring money into a black hole.

Very relevant.


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I'll take CBOs word over Politifact everyday of the week. And if you believe that it's true that Obama cut Medicare benefits to seniors, I can't have a Medicare debate with you. We can debate about other things, but this conversation is a non-starter. Please understand what I'm saying, the cuts to Medicare providers (not "greedy insurance companies", but docs & hospitals) will result in providers either closing or not taking Medicare patients. If that's not a reduction in services (benefits) to seniors, particularly in rural areas, I don't know what is.

Really, I mean really,someone from the right who thinks Glenn Beck is God has the balls to say this about the Dems???Sammy before any republican says this ,....they need a good long look in a mirror!Never recall referencing Glenn Beck as God? I've got no problem looking in the mirror and refuting campaign garbage from the Obama camp. Perhaps you should have a bit more of an open mind and take a detailed look at the Romney/Ryan plan....but to each his own.

So ,Sammy is this a scare tactic?People need to watch the vidio!


Weekly Address: Congress Should Back Plan to Hire Teachers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ndkUaQ5HsBk)#!Our publice education system is a mess. We spend a ridiculous amount per child, yet are in the middle world-wide in performance. More federal programs and expansion of the DoEd isn't the answer. Reduce federal programs/requirements/regulations, send grants to states, allow title 1 dollars to attch to student not school.

Ask yourself this question, why do private schools educate their students better than public schools with less cost-per-student.

Maybe we just need more computers.........

Our publice education system is a mess. We spend a ridiculous amount per child, yet are in the middle world-wide in performance. More federal programs and expansion of the DoEd isn't the answer. Reduce federal programs/requirements/regulations, send grants to states, allow title 1 dollars to attch to student not school.

Ask yourself this question, why do private schools educate their students better than public schools with less cost-per-student.


They don't.Reduce Federal programs ??? Public schools are all ready doing without,arts,phys Ed,music...etc,now you want to take what is left ...what is that lunch,in some place's the only meal of the day for kids..grants to the state and not the school ,so the schools in the really nice areas....that can afford their public education ,take from the ones that can't?
Requirments/regulations ,...like what ?You say "We spend a ridiculous amount per child, like howmuch and why do you think it's rediculous?Just seems funny that this wasn't an issue under G.Bush but now it's Obama's fault?

They don't.Reduce Federal programs ??? Public schools are all ready doing without,arts,phys Ed,music...etc,now you want to take what is left ...what is that lunch,in some place's the only meal of the day for kids..grants to the state and not the school ,so the schools in the really nice areas....that can afford their public education ,take from the ones that can't?
Requirments/regulations ,...like what ?You say "We spend a ridiculous amount per child, like howmuch and why do you think it's rediculous?Just seems funny that this wasn't an issue under G.Bush but now it's Obama's fault?Never said this wasn't an issue under Bush. NCLB was a well-intentioned attempt that hasn't produced results, it really only forced statewide testing requirements and teaching towards testing standards.

Schools only receive about 12% or so of all funding from the fed. All I'm saying is rather than push regs down on states, just give them grants to administer education that works best in each state.

Just do some quick research on the amounts spent per child in the U.S. In many places it is far more than the amount to send a child to a private school.

You've got to stop believing all the garbage labels that Dems/libs throw at GOP/conservatives. We aren't the "evil rich" or "clinging to our guns/bibles". We want the best for everyone is the U.S. We just believe giving more money to the fed isn't the answer, and history shows we're right (look at Europe and our National Debt).