2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)


NC_Skins
06-04-2012, 10:43 AM
Money Men: The Powerful and the Secret Names Behind Campaign Dough | Power Players - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/money-men-powerful-secret-names-behind-campaign-dough-123012290.html)

Your country is bought and paid for.



12th man. I don't need to wait till November. As long as money is guiding our politics, it'll continue to be a failure. It's time we get corporate america out of our goverment as well as the religious nuts.

CRedskinsRule
06-04-2012, 10:56 AM
This isn't really directly tied to the Presidential race since both parties are gung ho for military spending (regardless of the spin), but read this article, and ask yourself who is the aggressor in the dynamic. And if another country were spending this much on an invisible battleship, how would it be portrayed in our media/politics.

Stealth destroyer, at over $3 billion apiece, is US Navy’s latest answer to rising China - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/stealth-destroyer-at-over-3-billion-apiece-is-us-navys-latest-answer-to-rising-china/2012/06/04/gJQAtizlCV_story_1.html)

firstdown
06-04-2012, 11:33 AM
Look, I've pretty much resigned myself the reality that Congress is what it is. The voters will and should hold the president accountable on November 6 regardless of the clear obstructionism we've witnessed over the past 3.5 years. I'm not here to make any excuses for Obama. He's a big boy, he signed up for this job, and he needs to put in more work to make this shit right. Period. Voters reward results, not good intentions.

That said, let's see where the economy is come November before we start pronouncing failure.

Its been dems who have not voted along with Obama which has been his problem. His first two year the Dems had total control and he could not get them to vote on his bills but you guys blamed the GOP. You act like he is the first Pres. to have this problem and he is not. Bill Clinton had to work with the GOP and he managed to get bills passed by working with them unlike Obama. Also if I'm correct didn't all his financial advisors who work on the stimulas resign?

12thMan
06-04-2012, 11:45 AM
I believe two people have resigned: Christina Romer and Larry Summers resigned. Tim Geithner is still there. Romer more or less took the position knowing she would return back to teaching in short order.

12thMan
06-04-2012, 11:53 AM
Even Maureen Dowd beginning to turn?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/dowd-dreaming-of-a-superhero.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/14/opinion/14dowd.html

Column from Maureen Dowd trashing Obama back in Feb 2007. Same shit, different day.

NC_Skins
06-04-2012, 12:31 PM
Had to laugh at this.

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/Z/v/2/mitt-fix-washinton.jpg

firstdown
06-04-2012, 01:47 PM
Had to laugh at this.

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/Z/v/2/mitt-fix-washinton.jpg

That's not me.

Chico23231
06-04-2012, 02:10 PM
does anybody feel like we really dont have a choice this time around? Im really not happy with Obama, but is Mitt the answer? Dont know, but im leaning towards Mitt at this point.

NC_Skins
06-05-2012, 10:24 AM
This isn't really directly tied to the Presidential race since both parties are gung ho for military spending (regardless of the spin), but read this article, and ask yourself who is the aggressor in the dynamic. And if another country were spending this much on an invisible battleship, how would it be portrayed in our media/politics.

Stealth destroyer, at over $3 billion apiece, is US Navy’s latest answer to rising China - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/stealth-destroyer-at-over-3-billion-apiece-is-us-navys-latest-answer-to-rising-china/2012/06/04/gJQAtizlCV_story_1.html)



Just the kind of shit I want to see. OMG CHINA HAS A BOAT! QUICK LETS SPEND ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS ON WAR MACHINES!! This is a huge reason why Russia went bankrupt. It spent all of its money in the Cold War trying to keep up with the US and for funding a non winnable war in Afghanistan.

This is the shit the Republicans want to spend their money on. Yeah, **** those peasants and their healthcare and social security. We want things that blow up people. (preferably minorities)

Americans want this to change, but our politicians are bought and paid for by military industrial market.

Americans want to slash defense spending, but Washington isn’t listening - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/americans-want-to-slash-defense-spending-but-washington-isnt-listening/2012/05/10/gIQAyAzQGU_blog.html)


http://c.michaelhyatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/iStock_000009029390Small.jpg

CRedskinsRule
06-05-2012, 10:36 AM
Just the kind of shit I want to see. OMG CHINA HAS A BOAT! QUICK LETS SPEND ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS ON WAR MACHINES!! This is a huge reason why Russia went bankrupt. It spent all of its money in the Cold War trying to keep up with the US and for funding a non winnable war in Afghanistan.

This is the shit the Republicans want to spend their money on. Yeah, **** those peasants and their healthcare and social security. We want things that blow up people. (preferably minorities)

Americans want this to change, but our politicians are bought and paid for by military industrial market.

Americans want to slash defense spending, but Washington isn’t listening - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/americans-want-to-slash-defense-spending-but-washington-isnt-listening/2012/05/10/gIQAyAzQGU_blog.html)


http://c.michaelhyatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/iStock_000009029390Small.jpg
This isn't republican/democratic, both sides spend on military, in ridiculous amounts, and on projects that bring work into their district. Growing up Sam Nunn (D-Ga) was one of the most powerful proponents of military spending. Ultimately you don't need a 3Billion dollar boat to protect our shores/interests you need a 3Billion dollar boat because you want every body to see the size of your toys.

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