2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)


Slingin Sammy 33
08-07-2012, 03:02 PM
What about Wall Street ,you hammer Unions and forget about the uber weathly CEO's who took down Wall St in the first place ...UNDER BUSH's ...reign of terror.Lets not forget the Auto Industry is paying it back.

Government Bailout of Ford GM Chrysler and the Auto Industry (http://useconomy.about.com/od/criticalssues/a/auto_bailout.htm)


Very good break down of the whole thing!The CEOs are split D & R. Some of the Wall St. firms receiving bailout money were big Obama contributors. Wall St. connected firms/individuals donated more to Obama over McCain in 2008.

The catalyst for the Wall St. meltdown was the mortgage crisis, which stemmed from lax lending practices started by Clinton's Making Homes Affordable plan. Even Clinton, along with the GOP in Congress, was raising red flags on Fannie/Freddie while Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and crew were saying everything's fine, nothing to see here.

The U.S. Dept. of Treasury has stated that when all is said and done U.S. taxpayers will have lost $23B total in the auto bailouts.

Slingin Sammy 33
08-07-2012, 03:36 PM
So Obama extends Bush tax cuts and he's governing from the far left? Congress (upheld by the Supreme Court) passed healthcare reform designed by a Republican and he's governing from the far left? Obama's done more for returning troops by way of mental healthcare, increasing veterans benefits, and addressing homelessness among our veterans and he's an ideologue? We've seen a dramatic decrease in the federal workers, while adding nearly 5 million private sector jobs and he's governing from the left?

C'mon, man. Sometimes...You've got to stop parroting the talking points and look deeper.

- Obama had no choice in extending the Bush tax cuts, if he didn't the economy would be definitively worse than it already is and he wouldn't even have a shot at winning in Nov. His position is higher taxes and "spreading the wealth around" , no way to deny that.

- What a Dem controlled Congress passed was not what the GOP originally designed.

- Dramatic decrease in fed workers.....you need to check out your own liberal sites? Read this from Politifact:
http://www.thewarpath.net/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=929070

From the link: "First, let’s look at federal government employment, which accounts for just 13 percent of all government employment. The number of federal workers has increased by 38,000 over the same period -- an increase of 1.4 percent.

And if you separate out the U.S. Postal Service, the growth was even bigger. Non-postal federal employment -- about 10 percent of all government employment -- increased over the same period by 139,000 workers, or 6.7 percent."

- Added 5M jobs???? Are you kidding me? This is from the Communist News Network in Jan. 2012, I know the private sector didn't add 6M jobs since then:
Did Obama really make government bigger? - Jan. 25, 2012 (http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/25/news/economy/obama_government/index.htm)
"The federal government has been one of the few areas that's grown during the economic downturn. The private sector remains down 1.1 million jobs from the start of 2009, while state and local governments have shed 635,000 positions.

Actual facts from Fox News in June 2012
By going back 27 months, Obama starts counting at the low point of employment for the private sector in February 2010 and tracks how far it has come. But counting farther back, since the end of the recession in June 2009, private-sector job gains have been much more modest, 3.1 million. That's a more meaningful measurement to economists.
Overall, the economy has lost 1.37 million jobs — 784,000 in the private sector — since Obama was inaugurated.
Read more: FACT CHECK: Where Obama, Romney missed mark | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/15/fact-check-where-obama-romney-missed-mark/#ixzz22tGvxTyK)


Just thought I'd throw these out. Obama was rated by National Journal as the most liberal senator for 2007 and 10th most liberal in 2006.

Don't try to cover for Obama's far-left positions, he is who he is. He needs to just come out and make the case for European Socialism to the American people and let the chips fall where they may.
Obama’s Third-Party History - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online (http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302031/obamas-third-party-history-stanley-kurtz?pg=2)


P.S. You never came up with an answer for me on the green energy (junk bond) loans?

mlmpetert
08-07-2012, 03:45 PM
A Firefighter, a Postal Worker, a Veteran, and an Educator Have Dinner with Barack - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAHESUtxAeU&feature=relmfu)


So this is like a lottery thing? Donate to Obama and you might win a golden ticket?

And ill make this promise. If we ever run into each other ill buy you a dr.... err donate to Obama.

Barack Obama would like you to stop drinking and donate, please. :: Naked DC (http://nakeddc.com/2012/08/01/barack-obama-would-like-you-to-stop-drinking-and-donate-please/)

mlmpetert
08-07-2012, 04:00 PM
Thanks for the catch.

Don't quote me, but I think combined we've surpassed a billion dollars in campaign spending. Pretty much disqualifies me from every running for POTUS.


I saw or heard something a little while back that there was a legit estimate (probably from Heritage) that Democrats might spend over a billion this year. Democrats rebuffed but i think they said it would be around 750.

I think democrats normally spend more, but i would think normally a mid cycle election would be less or the same as 4 years earlier.

Ill see if i can find it later so not just to speculate.

NC_Skins
08-07-2012, 04:02 PM
Don't try to cover for Obama's far-left positions, he is who he is.


:laughing2


President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act - Now What? - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/)

Guantanamo Bay: Still Open, Despite Promises - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/guantanamo-bay-open-promises/story?id=16698768#.UCFxrKDNlQg)


Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan So Administration Has More Time to Evaluate Conflict (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/12/AR2009011203492.html)

Obama’s ‘kill list’ is unchecked presidential power - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-kill-list-is-unchecked-presidential-power/2012/06/11/gJQAHw05WV_story.html)

Obama drone strikes: The president ordered more than George W. Bush - Slate Magazine (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/obama_drone_strikes_the_president_ordered_more_tha n_george_w_bush.html)

Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html)

Obama signs bill to extend Bush-era tax cuts for two more years (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121606200.html)

Libya airstrikes: Obama defends Libya mission - Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/29/world/la-fg-obama-libya-20110329)


Far left? Has to be the funniest thing I've read to date in regards to Obama. He's more like you guys than you'll ever know.




You've got to stop parroting the talking points and look deeper.



The irony here is so overwhelming.

MTK
08-07-2012, 04:08 PM
Far left? I wish.

mlmpetert
08-07-2012, 04:31 PM
New Obama Fundraising Email Offers Court Time with ‘Michael Freaking Jordan’ | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/president-woos-donors-in-new-email-by-offering-court-time-with-micheal-freaking-jordan/)

Donate 3 dollars or so and youll be entered into a raffle to watch a bunch of basketball "heroes" (including Carmello Anthony) play.

saden1
08-07-2012, 04:49 PM
Far left? I wish.

If Obama isn't far left who is? Dennis Kucinich? Bernie Sanders?

saden1
08-07-2012, 04:53 PM
New Obama Fundraising Email Offers Court Time with ‘Michael Freaking Jordan’ | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/president-woos-donors-in-new-email-by-offering-court-time-with-micheal-freaking-jordan/)

Donate 3 dollars or so and youll be entered into a raffle to watch a bunch of basketball "heroes" (including Carmello Anthony) play.

Why is this interesting? I would think the article (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Mitt-Romney-out-raises-Obama-re-election-campaign-with-1013-million-in-July-165240866.html) that's linked in the story is far more interesting with nuggets like:


Overall however Obama and the Democrats are ahead in the race for cash, having raised about $627 million to date compared with the $495 million raised by Romney and the Republicans.


Meanwhile Romney out-raised Obama by more than $35 million in June and May. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus told the press on Monday that the figures were a sign that Romney's campaign was resonating with voters. More than 94 percent of all donations received last month were for $250 or less, the Romney campaign announced. Those 600,627 contributions totaled $25.7 million of the haul.

Slingin Sammy 33
08-07-2012, 05:59 PM
:laughing2


President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act - Now What? - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/)

Guantanamo Bay: Still Open, Despite Promises - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/guantanamo-bay-open-promises/story?id=16698768#.UCFxrKDNlQg)


Obama to Send More Troops to Afghanistan So Administration Has More Time to Evaluate Conflict (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/12/AR2009011203492.html)

Obama’s ‘kill list’ is unchecked presidential power - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-kill-list-is-unchecked-presidential-power/2012/06/11/gJQAHw05WV_story.html)

Obama drone strikes: The president ordered more than George W. Bush - Slate Magazine (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/06/obama_drone_strikes_the_president_ordered_more_tha n_george_w_bush.html)

Patriot Act Extension Signed By Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html)

Obama signs bill to extend Bush-era tax cuts for two more years (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/16/AR2010121606200.html)

Libya airstrikes: Obama defends Libya mission - Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/29/world/la-fg-obama-libya-20110329)


Far left? Has to be the funniest thing I've read to date in regards to Obama. He's more like you guys than you'll ever know.
You make the mistake of believing all conservatives agree with unchecked military power. Some of the provisions in the NDA and Patriot Act are necessary, but certainly others....particularly those that apply to U.S. citizens may need to be re-evaluated.

Far-left politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics)

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