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saden1 07-27-2012, 04:52 PM Aiight, so here's the skinny. Seriously.
Turns out there are two Churchill busts. Yep. One was a gift during the Nixon administration and has remained a part of the White House's official are collection since. It's the one in the White House photo with Obama and Cameron.
The other, which was loaned to George Bush after 9/11, was already scheduled to go back before Obama arrived and is at the British Embassy.
LOL....so for almost 10 years there were two busts of Churchill in the White House?
12thMan 07-27-2012, 04:55 PM Like what?
You want me to provide you with 7 months of video footage of the president discussing the issues?
He's been in OH, FL, VA, IA, CA, LA, TX several times in the past few months...weeks. Where've you been?
12thMan 07-27-2012, 05:01 PM LOL....so for almost 10 years there were two busts of Churchill in the White House?
Yep, by the same artist. Sir Jacob Epstein. Crazy shit.
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Denial is a helluva drug
mlmpetert 07-27-2012, 05:42 PM Well im as surprised as everyone else. Im glad theres an end to this story finally. But to be nitpicky:
‘The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship. It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the President was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009.
The new President has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador’s Residence.”
1) Maybe a language barrier of sorts? The whole bust thing was a resonable sized story/lure in America AND in Brittin for several years. Rightfully so or not, doesnt really matter. Why the hell did the Embassy never clairify their remarks?
2) So The White House blog and "fact" checker is just some kid with the internet? WTF, youd think he would have some kind of inside information and be posting real stuff. This fact checking kid is spreading more mis-information than anyone else. He's striaght up wrong on many things. His update doesnt even acknowlege that hes wrong, it just states info that he could have got from perusing the Debating With the Enemy section of his faviort Redskins forum. Jesus.
12thMan 07-27-2012, 05:55 PM Well im as surprised as everyone else. Im glad theres an end to this story finally. But to be nitpicky:
1) Maybe a language barrier of sorts? The whole bust thing was a resonable sized story/lure in America AND in Brittin for several years. Rightfully so or not, doesnt really matter. Why the hell did the Embassy never clairify their remarks?
2) So The White House blog and "fact" checker is just some kid with the internet? WTF, youd think he would have some kind of inside information and be posting real stuff. This fact checking kid is spreading more mis-information than anyone else. He's striaght up wrong on many things. His update doesnt even acknowlege that hes wrong, it just states info that he could have got from perusing the Debating With the Enemy section of his faviort Redskins forum. Jesus.
No, Dan Pffeifer is the White House Communications Director. He posts blogs at the White House on site occasionally. Been around for years.
The original bust on loan from Nixon was being worked on for a while and the Brits decided to "loan" the match to Bush until the end of his term. It's custom to return all art and such at the end of each of administration. What's being missed in all of this, at some point the original bust was returned to the "residence" and there were two. When O took office they sent the other one down the street.
The end.
NC_Skins 07-27-2012, 07:12 PM Well im as surprised as everyone else. Im glad theres an end to this story finally.
Yeah...like the birth certificate story.
No wait...
mlmpetert 07-27-2012, 10:03 PM No, Dan Pffeifer is the White House Communications Director. He posts blogs at the White House on site occasionally. Been around for years.
The original bust on loan from Nixon was being worked on for a while and the Brits decided to "loan" the match to Bush until the end of his term. It's custom to return all art and such at the end of each of administration. What's being missed in all of this, at some point the original bust was returned to the "residence" and there were two. When O took office they sent the other one down the street.
The end.
You know at first i was going to call Dan Pffeifer a complete idiot but im thinking its not really his fault. No one knows whats going on in this administration. Its got to be painful working working there, regardless of how strongly you feel about Admin's ideology. For God's sake the second cabinet meeting of the year was just held. Wtf does Obama do all day?
Obama Holds First Cabinet Meeting Since January | The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-holds-first-cabinet-meeting-january_648993.html)
And come on 12th. I appreciate your summary of what happened but thats not at all what im saying. Do you not find it odd at all the way the the British Embassy phrased the return of the statue? I mean this is such a non-issue in retrospect. So why did the Obama admin or the Brits never clarify. I mean regardless if you think it was an issue or not we all thought it happened. Even Pffeifer, bless his sole, had no idea what was going on.
Giantone 07-28-2012, 02:55 AM Denial is a helluva drug
LOL...yup, just not a river in Eygpt.:)
HailGreen28 07-28-2012, 08:54 AM You want me to provide you with 7 months of video footage of the president discussing the issues?
He's been in OH, FL, VA, IA, CA, LA, TX several times in the past few months...weeks. Where've you been?You said he's been talking about plenty of issues. I asked "Like what?".
Claiming to have to dig through campaign footage to find Obama actually talking about issues, and seeing how Obama's going almost totally negative campaigning on TV ads, speaks for itself. Doesn't it?
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