2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

LOLOLOL Obama supporter? You're cute when you spout fallacies.

Still got a chuckle out of that "Obama supporter" comment.As FD mentioned a while back your posts are 10 - 1 supporting Obama/Dems/liberal issues and/or bashing conservatives/GOP vs. the other way around.

and no one on the left (or anyone who claims to be "down the middle" LOLOLOL) has any reasonable answers for any of my questions.

As FD mentioned a while back your posts are 10 - 1 supporting Obama/Dems/liberal issues and/or bashing conservatives/GOP vs. the other way around.

and no one on the left (or anyone who claims to be "down the middle" LOLOLOL) has any reasonable answers for any of my questions.

I post my stuff as they arise. I also don't post garbage like Fox News. I can certainly dig and find you 2 year old related stuff if you like, but I do like to keep current. Obama lost my vote long ago; however, I have to correct people on inaccuracies or their half-truths.

Also, the reason I'm supporting the dems/liberal/obama issues is that quite frankly, the Republicans have been the bigger idiots as of late. You only need to look at who they are parading out for Presidential election to see that.

What you chose not to quote:

From WaPo:
"In March 2010, Mitchell wrote Kaiser about Energy Secretary Steven Chu, describing his attempts to secure a second Energy Department loan. “Chu is apparently staying involved in Solyndra’s application and continues to talk up the company as a success story,” Mitchell wrote. "

"In an October 2010 e-mail exchange, Kaiser appeared to challenge a plan by his associates to press the White House for unspecified help. “The WH has offered to help in the past and we do have a contact within the WH that we are working with,” Mitchell wrote to Kaiser. Kaiser suggested that Chu might take offense at any attempt to go over his head.
“I question the assumption that the WH is the path to pursue when both of your issues are with the” Energy Department, Kaiser wrote to associates Oct. 6, 2010. He said presidential counselor Pete Rouse and Carol Browner, who then headed the White House energy office, might not choose to get involved in the issue.
“If they did, I am concerned that DOE/Chu would resent the intervention,” Kaiser wrote.
Mitchell replied, “The WH meeting is more about assistance in selling panels to the government than it is about getting the DOE loan revised.”
Kaiser responded that Mitchell should “pursue” his White House contacts “to follow up on the casual comment during the plant visit.” Obama had visited Solyndra’s Silicon Valley factory in May 2010 for a press event."

From the ABC link:
" In one pointed memo, shortly before the company declared bankruptcy, a top Treasury official wrote to the White House to make clear that the decision to restructure the deal did not have Treasury or Justice Department approval -- despite early suggestions that approval from both agencies may be required."

"An elite Obama fundraiser hired to help oversee the administration's energy loan program pushed and prodded career Department of Energy officials to move faster in approving a loan guarantee for Solyndra (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/solyndra-execs-congress/story?id=14567091), even as his wife's law firm was representing the California solar company, according to internal emails made public late Friday.
"How hard is this? What is he waiting for?" wrote Steven J. Spinner, a high-tech consultant and energy investor who raised at least $500,000 for the candidate before being appointed to a key job helping oversee the energy loan guarantee program. "I have OVP [the Office of the Vice President] and WH [the White House] breathing down my neck on this."

and from the other WaPo link:
But as Hoover Institution scholar Peter Schweizer reported in his book, “Throw Them All Out (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547573146?ie=UTF8&tag=slatmaga-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0547573146),” fully 71 percent of the Obama Energy Department’s grants and loans went to “individuals who were bundlers, members of Obama’s National Finance Committee, or large donors to the Democratic Party.” Collectively, these Obama cronies raised $457,834 for his campaign, and they were in turn approved for grants or loans of nearly $11.35 billion.

So the left throws complete speculation that has been debunked for years about Romney/Bain and that's supposed to equate/negate hard facts on Obama funneling tax money to bundlers....ummm OK.

Dude, all you're doing is quoting an email about an email about what so and so said. A big effin' so what.

Nothing, in anything you've cut and pasted, mentions him getting any special favoritism from a White House officials.

If the guy had so much juice and the money was flowing, why didn't he go straight to the top? Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Seems like he's jumping through a lot of hoops for the White House to be so eager to reward one of their campaign donors.

Bottom line, they've investigated and it's yield goose eggs.

Bottom line, they've investigated and it's yield goose eggs.ditto with Bain/Romney.....but I don't think all the shoes have dropped yet with the green energy issues. There are many ongoing gov't investigations, Solyndra is just one.

Apples and oranges comparing Bain to Solyndra. But we shall see. More shoes to drop on Bain and Romney knows it.

Not sure how this hasn't hit here yet, but this is hilarious.


McCain: Palin was 'better candidate' than Romney - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/07/mccain-i-wasnt-scared-off-by-romney-tax-returns-129201.html)

Carville: Romney losing the fight over Bain - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57472747/carville-romney-losing-the-fight-over-bain/)

Palin a better candidate than Romney?...lol Ouch.




Also, this is McCain's notes and profile on Romney when he was choosing running mates back in 2008. Hilarious stuff and will keep you laughing for a while.


McCain's 2008 Anti-Mitt Romney Oppo Research Raised 2012 Themes : It's All Politics : NPR (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/01/18/145396639/mccains-2008-anti-mitt-romney-oppo-research-raised-2012-themes)


My favorite parts:

Romney: “I Purchased A Gun When I Was A Young Man. I’ve Been A Hunter Pretty Much All My Life.”(Glen Johnson, “Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,” The Associated Press , 4/5/07)

Romney Later Admitted He Has Been Hunting Only Twice In His Life – Once Nearly Fifty Years Ago, OnceAt “Fenced Game Preserve” On 2006 Retreat For Political Donors.“[T]he former Massachusetts governor’shunting experience is limited to two trips at the bookends of his 60 years: as a 15-year-old, when he huntedrabbits with his cousins on a ranch in Idaho, and last year, when he shot quail on a fenced game preserve inGeorgia. Last year’s trip was an outing with major donors to the Republican Governors Association, whichRomney headed at the time.”(Glen Johnson, “Romney Calls Himself A Longtime Hunter,”
The Associated Press , 4/5/07)


After Professing He Owned A Gun, Romney Admitted The Gun Was Not His But Maintained He WentHunting “From Time To Time.”
“Asked by reporters at the gun show Friday whether he personally owned thegun, Romney said he did not. He said one of his sons, Josh, keeps two guns at the family vacation home in Utah,and he uses them ‘from time to time.’

“From abortion, to gaymarriage, to gun rights, to tax cuts, to immigration reform, to Social Security -- even his own political heroes --Romney has switched his positions on just about every issue in this campaign.”(Heidi Przybyla, “Romney, Battered OverSocial Issues, Shifts Focus To Economics,”Bloomberg News , 2/7/07)

Romney: “I thought becoming rich and famous would make me happy. Boy was I right.” (Tape 78

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If the guy had so much juice and the money was flowing, why didn't he go straight to the top? Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Seems like he's jumping through a lot of hoops for the White House to be so eager to reward one of their campaign donors.Why was DoE awarding hundreds of millions of dollars in gov't guaranteed loans to companies with junk bond credit ratings?

Either the Obama Admin is galactically stupid or galactically corrupt, you pick. Alex, I'll take Galactically Corrupt for $ 1000.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/FINAL-DOE-Loan-Guarantees-Report.pdf

Why was DoE awarding hundreds of millions of dollars in gov't guaranteed loans to companies with junk bond credit ratings?

Either the Obama Admin is galactically stupid or galactically corrupt, you pick. Alex, I'll take Galactically Corrupt for $ 1000.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/FINAL-DOE-Loan-Guarantees-Report.pdf

LOL..that literally made me laugh out loud. I got nothing. I'll dig up something later, but I'll let you have this round for comedic value.

Not sure how this hasn't hit here yet, but this is hilarious.


McCain: Palin was 'better candidate' than Romney - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/07/mccain-i-wasnt-scared-off-by-romney-tax-returns-129201.html)

Carville: Romney losing the fight over Bain - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57472747/carville-romney-losing-the-fight-over-bain/)

Palin a better candidate than Romney?...lol Ouch.




Also, this is McCain's notes and profile on Romney when he was choosing running mates back in 2008. Hilarious stuff and will keep you laughing for a while.


McCain's 2008 Anti-Mitt Romney Oppo Research Raised 2012 Themes : It's All Politics : NPR (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/01/18/145396639/mccains-2008-anti-mitt-romney-oppo-research-raised-2012-themes)


My favorite parts:







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When you say your not a dem or an Obama supporter its like when Clinton said I never had sex with that lady.LMAO