2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)


firstdown
10-19-2012, 10:13 AM
BS Sammy and shame on you for even going there!This is a man who you want as President yet he knew ...as you admit to nothing of the intel or any facts the President had yet he'll open his mouth and speak on a subject with out even knowing if the families of the victims have even been notified yet,BS!

I'll agree with you Romney spoke too soon and was trying to score political points. Sad part is now that we know the facts he was correct but that still does not make what he said at that time OK.

firstdown
10-19-2012, 10:15 AM
Lightening up the mood a bit. But in the spirit of taking sides and saying who won ill give a slight edge to Mitt.

Mitt Romney Jokes at The Al Smith dinner - 2012 (Full Monologue) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsSzkCgcBtU&feature=plcp)


Obama Roasts Himself, Jabs At Romney And Even Elbows Chris Matthews During Al Smith Dinner - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJKOxWThBXU)


They should have a total debate of throwing jokes at each other.

12thMan
10-19-2012, 11:45 AM
I'll agree with you Romney spoke too soon and was trying to score political points. Sad part is now that we know the facts he was correct but that still does not make what he said at that time OK.

How was he correct? He wasn't. No one was. In fact, we're still receiving information from intelligence on the ground almost a month later.

Acts of terror..terrorists act? Are you people kidding? You think this is a winning message? You think there was some secret cover-up? Right. Just like Solyndra and Fast and Furious. Keep it up Republicans.

12thMan
10-19-2012, 11:45 AM
In other news, I love debunking the talking point the Obamacare adds to the deficit.

CBO: 'Obamacare' cuts deficit | Bankrate.com (http://www.bankrate.com/financing/insurance/cbo-obamacare-cuts-deficit/)

firstdown
10-19-2012, 12:22 PM
How was he correct? He wasn't. No one was. In fact, we're still receiving information from intelligence on the ground almost a month later.

Acts of terror..terrorists act? Are you people kidding? You think this is a winning message? You think there was some secret cover-up? Right. Just like Solyndra and Fast and Furious. Keep it up Republicans.

Well its your man one day saying its a terrorist attack and then the following that up by saying it was an uncontrolled mob over a movie. Its also his administration who denied extra security. Plenty of evidences shows they knew it was a terrorist attack but for some reason (I'd say because they denied more security) they said it was a mob.

Funny you even bring up Fast and Furious. So why is the president not providing the documents requested by cobgress if he has nothing to coved up?

I don't recall people saying the president was covering up the Solyndra mess we just said that he loaned them money after his own staff warned him not to give them the money.

Strike 3 your out.

firstdown
10-19-2012, 12:27 PM
In other news, I love debunking the talking point the Obamacare adds to the deficit.

CBO: 'Obamacare' cuts deficit | Bankrate.com (http://www.bankrate.com/financing/insurance/cbo-obamacare-cuts-deficit/)
From your link.

Since states now have the option to accept or reject the government's offer to pay 100 percent of the initial cost to expand Medicaid, the CBO estimates that 3 million fewer Americans than previously expected will gain health insurance coverage under health care reform.
As a result, taxpayers will save about $84 billion between 2012 and 2022, when an additional 30 million Americans will have been added to the health insurance pool.


Read more: CBO: 'Obamacare' cuts deficit | Bankrate.com (http://www.bankrate.com/financing/insurance/cbo-obamacare-cuts-deficit/#ixzz29lMSx77Z) CBO: 'Obamacare' cuts deficit | Bankrate.com (http://www.bankrate.com/financing/insurance/cbo-obamacare-cuts-deficit/#ixzz29lMSx77Z)

I thought the arguement on Obama care was by insuring more people we reduce cost. Now by not adding these people its going to reduce cost? Which is it?

12thMan
10-19-2012, 12:41 PM
Wait a minute, why couldn't it be both? Who says that's it one or the other. It's absolutely true the protest at the Egyptian embassy were sparked by the video.

Firstdown, you're late to the game. There's been no cover-up on Fast and Furious. AG Holder was cleared of any wrong doing. It was determined by an independent review board that neither the White House nor AG Holder was involved in a cover-up. Zilch.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/us/report-places-blame-in-operation-fast-and-furious.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Eric Holder cleared of wrongdoing in Fast and Furious case | The Ticket - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/eric-holder-cleared-wrongdoing-fast-furious-case-190134862.html)

12thMan
10-19-2012, 12:43 PM
From your link.

Since states now have the option to accept or reject the government's offer to pay 100 percent of the initial cost to expand Medicaid, the CBO estimates that 3 million fewer Americans than previously expected will gain health insurance coverage under health care reform.
As a result, taxpayers will save about $84 billion between 2012 and 2022, when an additional 30 million Americans will have been added to the health insurance pool.


Read more: CBO: 'Obamacare' cuts deficit | Bankrate.com (http://www.bankrate.com/financing/insurance/cbo-obamacare-cuts-deficit/#ixzz29lMSx77Z) CBO: 'Obamacare' cuts deficit | Bankrate.com (http://www.bankrate.com/financing/insurance/cbo-obamacare-cuts-deficit/#ixzz29lMSx77Z)

I thought the arguement on Obama care was by insuring more people we reduce cost. Now by not adding these people its going to reduce cost? Which is it?

The plan isn't fully implemented until 2014. Costs have definitely slowed and leveled off since the law passed.

NC_Skins
10-19-2012, 12:45 PM
Does Romney Have an In-Law Problem? - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/does-mitt-romney-law-problem-124550198--abc-news-topstories.html)


This seems fitting that 2 scumbag business guys related to Romney are campaigning for him. He'll do wonders for our economy guys!! Just vote him and and he'll then give you the specifics on how he's going to do this!

12thMan
10-19-2012, 12:50 PM
Well its your man one day saying its a terrorist attack and then the following that up by saying it was an uncontrolled mob over a movie. Its also his administration who denied extra security. Plenty of evidences shows they knew it was a terrorist attack but for some reason (I'd say because they denied more security) they said it was a mob.

Funny you even bring up Fast and Furious. So why is the president not providing the documents requested by cobgress if he has nothing to coved up?

I don't recall people saying the president was covering up the Solyndra mess we just said that he loaned them money after his own staff warned him not to give them the money.

Strike 3 your out.

The security request was in Tripoli 400 miles away, not Benghazi where the attack took place. That's a fact. So you're wrong.

The Administration didn't deny security. Security requests are made to State Department. The president doesn't have purview over security at Embassy posts. It's also true that Congress cut funding for additional embassy security.

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