Art Monk vs. NFL

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SmootSmack
05-10-2012, 04:44 PM
Hall of Fame receiver Art Monk latest to sue NFL - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/10/hall-fame-receiver-art-monk-latest-sue-nfl/)

mooby
05-10-2012, 04:49 PM
This should be interesting.

skinsfan69
05-10-2012, 04:51 PM
This is really starting to get old. Sorry but some of these players are just trying to get paid. Not saying this is the case with Monk but they all knew the risks.

MTK
05-10-2012, 04:55 PM
This is really starting to get old. Sorry but some of these players are just trying to get paid. Not saying this is the case with Monk but they all knew the risks.

Not so sure about that.

What we know today about concussions is far different than 20 years ago.

Daseal
05-10-2012, 05:02 PM
Not so sure about that.

What we know today about concussions is far different than 20 years ago.

So should you be able to sue a doctor 20 years after an operation because there's more information about the disease and they have better methods? No, it's part of the medical process. When it comes down to it, most of these guys are looking for a payday after mismanaging their money.

Football is a tough sport. It's tough on both body and mind to play -- and that's why I don't complain that they get paid a kings ransom. It is a violent sport that causes long term damage. We've known that for a long time. You can't possibly think that slamming your body into someone else at full speed hundreds or thousands of times a year isn't going to have lasting effects. We don't need modern medicine to reaffirm that.

It's too bad that so many of the old players are having issues. I have a lot more understanding for the guys that had to work another job while playing football. Who made the league on their back before the big contracts. But Art got paid a lot of money to sacrifice his body. Give them the collectively bargained health care and thank them for their service.

CrustyRedskin
05-10-2012, 05:05 PM
I guess my neighbor should sue somebody, he was a roofer for about thirty years and cant even walk upright. Maybe my uncle should sue, he was a machinist and mechanic forever and cant even open his hands. Ive been teaching for about 15 years and my minds shot, im lawyering up im fixn to get paidddd beeetches!!!

I guess all enlisted military pros should be lawyering up to.

FRPLG
05-10-2012, 05:12 PM
Not so sure about that.

What we know today about concussions is far different than 20 years ago.

Maybe, maybe not. How can the NFL be held responsible if this is the case?

I am torn on this. On one hand I think "Nobody knew how bad this stuff can be so how can anyone be held responsible?" on the other I think "If the NFL really knew this stuff then why wasn't it a bigger deal in general?"

I think I mostly believe these players as a whole are as responsible for this as the NFL is so these lawsuits are ridiculous. Until I see some evidence the NFL league and teams made some concerted effort to knowingly endanger players then I sorta don't want to hear it.

MTK
05-10-2012, 05:23 PM
Maybe, maybe not. How can the NFL be held responsible if this is the case?

I am torn on this. On one hand I think "Nobody knew how bad this stuff can be so how can anyone be held responsible?" on the other I think "If the NFL really knew this stuff then why wasn't it a bigger deal in general?"

I think I mostly believe these players as a whole are as responsible for this as the NFL is so these lawsuits are ridiculous. Until I see some evidence the NFL league and teams made some concerted effort to knowingly endanger players then I sorta don't want to hear it.

I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be held responsible. Just saying it's not fair to say the players knew all the risks at that time. And I'm not saying even the league knew, but I guess the point was maybe they should have.

Schneed10
05-10-2012, 05:24 PM
So should you be able to sue a doctor 20 years after an operation because there's more information about the disease and they have better methods? No, it's part of the medical process.

Yeah this is the key point for me. The only way the players have a case in my mind is if they can show that the NFL knew concussions were dangerous at the time and didn't do enough to prevent them.

We know more today about them, that doesn't mean the NFL knew about it back then and hid it.

I think the players are just using this as leverage to get the NFL to settle on better benefits for retired players.

CrustyRedskin
05-10-2012, 05:27 PM
Yeah this is the key point for me. The only way the players have a case in my mind is if they can show that the NFL knew concussions were dangerous at the time and didn't do enough to prevent them.

We know more today about them, that doesn't mean the NFL knew about it back then and hid it.

I think the players are just using this as leverage to get the NFL to settle on better benefits for retired players.

I agree but how in the heck could you prove that, talk about a witch hunt. But im sure Godell could find somebody to finger!!:laughing2

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